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Is the president's religious views and preferences important to you?

How much does it matter - if at all?

  • a lot - complete concern

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • a lot but it's not the most important thing

    Votes: 2 7.1%

  • in the middle - yes / no

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • no much - not very important but it has some relevance

    Votes: 7 25.0%

  • no relevance at all - I don't care

    Votes: 13 46.4%

  • no relevance at all - but I do find it interesting

    Votes: 6 21.4%
  • Total voters
    28
Only if it's Scientology, otherwise not so much.
 
Of course not. All these politicians claim they "believe in god" and they attach themselves to some religion or another in order to backup that claim. But "believe ingod"? C'mon. Almost NOBODY believes in god. Sure, lots of people are programmed to say it, hell, even fight for it. But if any of them "belied in god" the world would be all rainbows and unicorns.

And for the most part, that's a good thing. "Believing in god" is really silly. At least the god that earthlings perpetuate. Burning bushes, virgin births, multi-virgins? As far as I can tell, "true belie" is a mental disorder and I don't think trying to run something and seeing angels is a very good idea.

So, yeah, Obusha "believes in god and is a christian". What he really is is a politician.
 
Ikari said:
Only if it's Scientology, otherwise not so much.
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All religions are just as stupid and irrational as Scientology.
 
Cephus said:
All religions are just as stupid and irrational as Scientology.
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That may be, but I feel that Scientology is the most egregious of the lot. If you're a Scientologist, you either know the whole thing is a scam or you are retarded. Either way, not someone I want in office.
 
Ikari said:
That may be, but I feel that Scientology is the most egregious of the lot. If you're a Scientologist, you either know the whole thing is a scam or you are retarded. Either way, not someone I want in office.
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It's just the newest brand of religious stupidity, it's no better or worse than any other religion out there. If you can believe in an imaginary friend in the sky who desperately cares about your sex life, you can believe in Xenu nuking alien souls. Stupidity is stupidity, no matter which way it leans. Honestly, I don't want *ANY* of them in office.
 
Cephus said:
It's just the newest brand of religious stupidity, it's no better or worse than any other religion out there. If you can believe in an imaginary friend in the sky who desperately cares about your sex life, you can believe in Xenu nuking alien souls. Stupidity is stupidity, no matter which way it leans. Honestly, I don't want *ANY* of them in office.
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Well you are certainly free to hold and express your opinions as am I.
 
It's hard for me to vote on this one. How important his religion is to me depends depends on how important it is to the president. If the president is a zealot, and likely to base most/all decisions on his religious views, then that would be a very important factor in whether I would vote for him. If the president is just putting on a show to get elected and really isn't a believer, and isn't likely to base decisions on whatever faith he professes, then I couldn't really care less either.
 
Not in the least, in fact I feel that religion is most often wielded about as a political tool by candidates who happen to be particularly impotent in the realm of actual policy and ideas. Unfortunately a large chunk of the population happens to be wildly dogmatic, which only serves to perpetuate this observable trend.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
well - is it?
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If you are actually religious then those religious views are supposed to shape everything you do in your life including your personal views, how you vote, the type of work you do, how you raise your kids and so on.Your not supposed to leave your religion at the door. So yes a politician's religious views do matter because if the individual is actually religious then it will shape everything they do including the laws they pass and the laws they vote against. However if that politician leaves their religion at the door then that politician is someone who will disregards their views when it becomes politically convenient to do so.
 
Aunt Spiker said:
well - is it?
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I answered no no relevance at all but this is based off the assumption that he is a good president and understands america

religion might be SUPER important if he isnt smart enough to put our constitution/bill of rights, laws, freedoms and liberties BEFORE his own religious views/opinions.

Theres people right in this forum that dont care about their fellow americans and only thier own opinions and their religious views. These people would be very dangerous in any office.
 
I think it's the other way around: I think people choose their religious beliefs based on their values - they find the one that suits them. It's becoming less common for people to be 'born' into their religion.

My father became a minister in a certain church because it matched his views that he already had and it felt 'right' to do so.

He didn't put aside his views to fit into the religion.
 
molten_dragon said:
It's hard for me to vote on this one. How important his religion is to me depends depends on how important it is to the president. If the president is a zealot, and likely to base most/all decisions on his religious views, then that would be a very important factor in whether I would vote for him. If the president is just putting on a show to get elected and really isn't a believer, and isn't likely to base decisions on whatever faith he professes, then I couldn't really care less either.
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Excellent answer. My thoughts on the issue, exactly.
 
No. But i find it interesting. But it does not affect my vote.
 
I personally don't care. Sure, religion affects your views, but there are saftey nets to allow a multi-cultural society to exist with little to no tension. I wouldn't mind if our president was Muslim, Hindu, Atheist, Christian Jehovah, Mormon, Jewish, etc. I don't really allow my personal religious views to affect me. I am more of a pragmatist. If my religion is "against gay marriage", then that doesn't necessarily mean that I will be against it. There is a possible interpretation that the Bible says that it is a sin to be gay. Okay, well if they want to sin let them, it doesn't hurt anybody else. If I was Muslim, then I obviously wouldn't eat pork but that doesn't mean that I can just ban pork. I don't think religion is truly that important unless you are trying to find someone who you see yourself in I guess
 
Ikari said:
Well you are certainly free to hold and express your opinions as am I.
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Indeed, although one is not free to claim that one's opinions are factually correct unless they can actually be demonstrated to be so.
 
Cephus said:
Indeed, although one is not free to claim that one's opinions are factually correct unless they can actually be demonstrated to be so.
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It's America, we can do whatever we want.
 
Only if I think his/her religion is an ill influence on his character and will affect his ability to govern

example: worshipping satan
 
Zariak said:
Only if I think his/her religion is an ill influence on his character and will affect his ability to govern

example: worshipping satan
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not sure why you need an example any religion would be an example
 
Ikari said:
It's America, we can do whatever we want.
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You're welcome to your own opinions, you are not welcome to your own facts.
 
I'm sure it depends on what their religion is and what they believe. Most of the people who say they don't mind have only ever dealt with fairly generic Christian candidates, most of whom have come from mainline protestant churches.
 
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