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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post

    Drowning is the most painful of deaths and a human will say "anything to escape".
    This just simply is not true. There are dozens of ways to die that are much more painful than drowning.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    I'm not just talking about terrorists....I'm talking about any nation that we might be at war with. When you stoop to the level of your enemy and engage in torture, it opens our men and women of the military up to the danger of being subjected to it....afterall, if we are a nation that tortures in violation of the generva convention, it is kind of hard for us to take the high ground. I think we owe our men and women of the military at LEAST that.

    As I was always taught growing up....its always better to take the high road. When you lower your values and morals in order to obtain a single victory....it cheapens us.
    Perhaps you dont know but they are already subject to that torture and more, remember the beheadings? I do. I dont condone torture its really quite pointless. We dont take war seriously anymore and this is the reason we have to stay in these countries for so long. War is organized destruction and murder. Nothing more. There is NO honor in it. The sooner we recognize this fact the better off we will be. William Sherman is probably the most asute general we ever had. He believed in total war. You warned the civilians in the area you were coming. They were warned if they cooperated in ANY way with the enemy their lives and property were forfiet. He left those who did nothing alone, the rest he burned their houses to the ground set their crops ablaze and killed their livestock after taking what could used by his army. When enemy tried to use human sheilds and used mines, Sherman had the sheilds shot and used the POWs he captured as mine detectors. Human shields and mines were not used for long. Its time we took the gloves off.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Perhaps you dont know but they are already subject to that torture and more, remember the beheadings? I do. I dont condone torture its really quite pointless. We dont take war seriously anymore and this is the reason we have to stay in these countries for so long. War is organized destruction and murder. Nothing more. There is NO honor in it. The sooner we recognize this fact the better off we will be. William Sherman is probably the most asute general we ever had. He believed in total war. You warned the civilians in the area you were coming. They were warned if they cooperated in ANY way with the enemy their lives and property were forfiet. He left those who did nothing alone, the rest he burned their houses to the ground set their crops ablaze and killed their livestock after taking what could used by his army. When enemy tried to use human sheilds and used mines, Sherman had the sheilds shot and used the POWs he captured as mine detectors. Human shields and mines were not used for long. Its time we took the gloves off.
    Interesting bit about Sherman. Did not know that he gave his would-be targets a choice to flee.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Interesting bit about Sherman. Did not know that he gave his would-be targets a choice to flee.
    Sherman is probably one of the most misunderstood individauls in history I would say. Then again he wasnt excactly the easiest charactor to know either. He is not what the southerners made him out to be, but neither was he what the north made him out to be too.

    He hated war with a passion. The irony is that hatered made him pretty good at it. There was cold logical reason for leaving the civilians alone if they were not helping the enemy, and that was simply to deny the South as much logistical support as he could. It was easier and faster to threaten and follow though on a few, to help spread the word that he was dead serious. He felt that the more brutal he made the war the faster it would come to an end. He wanted to spread the misery as it were.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Perhaps you dont know but they are already subject to that torture and more, remember the beheadings? I do. I dont condone torture its really quite pointless. We dont take war seriously anymore and this is the reason we have to stay in these countries for so long. War is organized destruction and murder. Nothing more. There is NO honor in it. The sooner we recognize this fact the better off we will be. William Sherman is probably the most asute general we ever had. He believed in total war. You warned the civilians in the area you were coming. They were warned if they cooperated in ANY way with the enemy their lives and property were forfiet. He left those who did nothing alone, the rest he burned their houses to the ground set their crops ablaze and killed their livestock after taking what could used by his army. When enemy tried to use human sheilds and used mines, Sherman had the sheilds shot and used the POWs he captured as mine detectors. Human shields and mines were not used for long. Its time we took the gloves off.
    You are exactly right......The old saying "War is Hell" is applicable.....I am so tired of people whinning on the left that we are so mean. Do whatever it takes, the hell with the bleeding heart Liberals.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    This just simply is not true. There are dozens of ways to die that are much more painful than drowning.

    The sad part is what have gotten a lot of good intelligence by using waterboarding...
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    The sad part is what have gotten a lot of good intelligence by using waterboarding...
    Bull ****....you are completely talking out of your ass here.....Even the biggest Bush fans have never even claimed this......there is ZERO evidence that we have gained ANY intelligence from the use of torture methods.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Bull ****....you are completely talking out of your ass here.....Even the biggest Bush fans have never even claimed this......there is ZERO evidence that we have gained ANY intelligence from the use of torture methods.
    Sure we did. Torture for verifiable information works and it was a ticking time bomb scenario. It was only 3 people (the abolute 'highest/most informed' terrorists in custody).

    Three top people in a ticking time bomb scenario for verifiable information? No problem. I hope we'd do it again.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Sure we did. Torture for verifiable information works and it was a ticking time bomb scenario. It was only 3 people (the abolute 'highest/most informed' terrorists in custody).

    Three top people in a ticking time bomb scenario for verifiable information? No problem. I hope we'd do it again.
    Personally I would not go with torture it too hit and miss. I would go with the threat of the total annialation of their people and cause and back it up with a VERY vivid demonstration of resolve. Basically out mean them. i am a big fan of mutually assurred destruction. It makes things much safer. For instance if its a muslim terrorist in custody I would find a madrass and bomb it to obilivion and then find a couple mosques and hit them timed for maximum carnage and destruction. If you had a couple of his buddies I shoot them with bullets dipped in pigs blood and them have corpses burned with the pigs carcuss and blood after they sit a couple of days while our boy gets a nice long look at em. Would even burn a Koran in front of him. The object would be to break their will, and for them to see that you are as willing as they are to go to ANY lengths to stop them. Get them to see the futility of their struggle.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Personally I would not go with torture it too hit and miss.
    Not really. Ticking time bomb scenario... the person gives info, the info is verified, if the info is a lie, things get worse. When the info is verifiable, torture works every time.

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