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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Using the children's golden do...treat others how you wish to be treated-with a slight twist to it.
    Only torture to the means of that that the torturer can handle
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    yeah right. your denial is laughable.

    the end
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Is this thread still going on? Waterboarding is torture. There is no debate. There is no question.

    Anybody who thinks otherwise needs a serious labotomy quick.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by comedy4all View Post
    What you might call hell we would call:

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    Ah, I gotcha. So if we do it to our troops, then by definition, that isn't torture.

    Neat. Then all we need to do is bring back the rack, the iron maiden, etc., and those will no longer be considered torture devices.

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    Obviously you've never been through any military training or been deployed to a combat theater.

    FWIW: waterboarding does not include flogging, burning or beatings so your infantile attempt at sarcasm totally misses the mark
    As I was saying.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Ah, I gotcha. So if we do it to our troops, then by definition, that isn't torture.

    Neat. Then all we need to do is bring back the rack, the iron maiden, etc., and those will no longer be considered torture devices.
    I bet the troops will love it... we stable their balls to a table and then we are able to do it to the enemy.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Yes. Waterboarding will bring bad intel. some of the intel that led us into Iraq bad intel wasobtained through waterboarding and proved to be wrong.

    Drowning is the most painful of deaths and a human will say "anything to escape".

    Saying "anything" can lead to bad intel, war, injustice and harm our country.

    Waterboarding is torture and America should be the high ground. There are more effective means to gather intel without committing crimes of war.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Yes. Waterboarding will bring bad intel. some of the intel that led us into Iraq bad intel wasobtained through waterboarding and proved to be wrong.

    Drowning is the most painful of deaths and a human will say "anything to escape".

    Saying "anything" can lead to bad intel, war, injustice and harm our country.

    Waterboarding is torture and America should be the high ground. There are more effective means to gather intel without committing crimes of war.
    If simple questioning might bring bad intel, should we stop doing that too?

    I agree we should try to maintain the moral high ground, but that means different things to different people. Is shooting a man in the face in battle (which is legal) some how more moral that slapping a man with flex cuffs?
    Last edited by Paratrooper; 08-14-12 at 12:07 AM.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dion View Post
    Yes. Waterboarding will bring bad intel. some of the intel that led us into Iraq bad intel wasobtained through waterboarding and proved to be wrong.

    Drowning is the most painful of deaths and a human will say "anything to escape".

    Saying "anything" can lead to bad intel, war, injustice and harm our country.

    Waterboarding is torture and America should be the high ground. There are more effective means to gather intel without committing crimes of war.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?[W:453]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    1.If simple questioning might bring bad intel, should we stop doing that too?

    2.I agree we should try to maintain the moral high ground, but that means different things to different people. Is shooting a man in the face in battle (which is legal) some how more moral that slapping a man with flex cuffs?
    1. No, of course not yet I was not suggesting an alternative of just simple questions. There are evidenced based methods to get correct intel (albeit all intel should be verified as much as possible on a pow source).

    2. The moral high ground reference is not related to defending or combat in battle ... however abiding by the Convention against Torture and Other Cruel, Inhuman or Degrading Treatment or Punishment (United Nations Convention) when we are invading a country because we declare the leader of the country tortures and violates human rights ... is immoral, UnAmerican, illogical and endangers our troops. Your analogy is illogical.

    The waterboard questions references treatment of POW's and not combat related operations.
    Last edited by Turin; 08-14-12 at 01:42 AM.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?[W:453]

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    If simple questioning might bring bad intel, should we stop doing that too?

    I agree we should try to maintain the moral high ground, but that means different things to different people. Is shooting a man in the face in battle (which is legal) some how more moral that slapping a man with flex cuffs?
    There's something in between. And there are actual measures of effectiveness. Proper interogation, absent torture has proven to be more effective. And your analogy doesn't really work.

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