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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    I say do whatever it takes if the info you get can save American Lives.........
    Even if it means that our men and women of the military will be tortured in the future as a result of our actions.....sorry, but we owe them more respect than that.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    How did they know what it was like to be waterboarded IRL?
    It is their field of study. There is much written on it and many experts to testify. They have knowledge of more than just their personal experience, which for many is narrow and often seeing the tree but not the forest. They also know the rules set up which do not apply to those captured. It really isn't hard to see clearly that it would be impossible for you to get the same experience. So when they testify before congress that it was but a taste, explain the rules, explain the differences, they do in fact present a convince case. Much more convincing than what you offer, absent anything but what you think you experienced.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Anything? I've asked you before. Do you have a line you will not cross?
    Anything and we are talking about torture not the perverted things you mentioned.
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jredbaron96 View Post
    Oh really? You have the political lean of every relative to an induvivual who has been captured by a terrorist?
    For me it has zero to do with politics.
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Even if it means that our men and women of the military will be tortured in the future as a result of our actions.....sorry, but we owe them more respect than that.
    They already are, are you naive enough to believe the terrorists abide by the Geneva Convention> You don't remember them cutting off our soldiers heads........Shame on you.
    "God Bless Our Troops in Harms Way."

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Even if it means that our men and women of the military will be tortured in the future as a result of our actions.....sorry, but we owe them more respect than that.
    Sorry, but to this I say "Grow up and face reality".

    Kindly name for me a single Allied soldier that is being held by the Taliban or al-Qaeda that has been given a single visit by the Red Crescent. Give me a report of a single Allied who was held POW who has not either dissapeared into a black hole with occasional videos surfacing with visible evidence of violence, or turned up as a mutilated corpse.

    This stupid claim that "this will cause our men and women to be tortured" is just absolute nonsense. Because it has been going on for decades.



    Col. Higgins, member of the UN Peacekeeping mission, was captured, held prisoner for over a year and constantly tortured, then his execution video taped and released to the media. And this kind of behavior has been going on for decades.

    Tell me, what could they be doing that is worse? Can you name a single Prisoner that our enemies have held that has been visited by International Authorities? Has a single one of them been released? Have their bodies ever been turned over in appropriate ways (through neutral intermediaries), instead of being thrown into garbage dumps decapitated?

    Grow up and face reality. They could not be doing much worse then they already are. I know guys who served in the grunts downrange. Generally it is a repeat of WWII in the Pacific, where they get promises from their buddies that they will be shot by their own comrades rather then be taken alive by that scum.
    War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. - John Stuart Mill

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    Anything and we are talking about torture not the perverted things you mentioned.
    If you have no line, anything means anything. I want to know where you draw the line. What moral core do you have?

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Oozlefinch View Post
    Sorry, but to this I say "Grow up and face reality".

    Kindly name for me a single Allied soldier that is being held by the Taliban or al-Qaeda that has been given a single visit by the Red Crescent.
    Here's what you miss, as the military has made the same argument he does. In the future we may fight a different enemy, one that had used proper restraint in the past. Now they don't have to as we have said such rule of law doesn't matter.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Even if it means that our men and women of the military will be tortured in the future as a result of our actions.....sorry, but we owe them more respect than that.
    Not that I agree completely with what NP said, I agree even less with you. Regardless of what we do, our captured servicemembers will be tortured and killed.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    It is their field of study.
    So, they read about it too. Gotcha.

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