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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

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    USAF =/= Army or Marines
    I know. That means even more go through.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

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    USAF =/= Army or Marines
    According to Staff Sgt. Clinton J. Thomas, chief instructor at JWTC, the purpose of the course is to teach Marines the skills they need should they become separated from their units in a combat zone and must survive off the land while evading the enemy.

    "We focus more on the survival and evasion portions of the course more so than we do with resistance and escape," the Grand Rapids, Mich. native said. "We teach them enough to survive on their own in the Okinawan jungle. If you can do that, you can survive just about anywhere."

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    irrelevant to your claim that I had not been through the real deal. It left no lasting physical effects, I was not "traumatized" for life. despite all the handwringing and bedwetting over it, waterboarding is not torture. you want to know about torture, talk to some of the vietnam POWs.
    It may have been the real deal, but if it was during training, it was training. They're not trying to get you to tell all your little secrets and they're not trying to kill you, so you wouldn'texperience the trauma someone who was being waterboarded as interrogation would feel. The physical pain, definitely, but the mental effects? No, I don't believe you would.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    It may have been the real deal, but if it was during training, it was training. They're not trying to get you to tell all your little secrets and they're not trying to kill you, so you [I]wouldn't[/I ]experience the trauma someone who was being waterboarded as interrogation would feel. The physical pain, definitely, but the mental effects? No, I don't believe you would.
    you can't simply dismiss something because it was "training". I went through tazer "training" and got tazed. i went through weapons "training" and fired a real weapon. etc. etc. etc.

    no terrorist who was ever waterboarded was trying to be killed, that would be counter productive. the goal of waterboarding is to get them to talk. dead men can't talk
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    you can't simply dismiss something because it was "training". I went through tazer "training" and got tazed. i went through weapons "training" and fired a real weapon. etc. etc. etc.

    no terrorist who was ever waterboarded was trying to be killed, that would be counter productive. the goal of waterboarding is to get them to talk. dead men can't talk
    Alright, then what were they trying to force out of you? And how many times were you waterboarded?
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Alright, then what were they trying to force out of you? And how many times were you waterboarded?
    read my previous posts.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    read my previous posts.
    I guess it was much easier for you to type that than to type simple answers to the two questions.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    I guess it was much easier for you to type that than to type simple answers to the two questions.
    how about I just don't want to repeat things for people to lazy to go back and read a page of posts? anyway, most of the details are classified anyway.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    how about I just don't want to repeat things for people to lazy to go back and read a page of posts? anyway, most of the details are classified anyway.
    Giving me a number and saying what information they were trying to force out of you is classified?

    Also, I just reread pages 35-42, you did not answer the first question and you barely answered the second, saying you've experience hours of waterboarding. It's not a matter of laziness, it's a matter of not wanting to go through 7 pages to find a half-answer to a question which would take you only seconds to answer.

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