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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by OscarB63 View Post
    wrongo boyo. I have been waterboarded...have you? and not during some mamby pamby politically correct BS experiment designed to prove a point. contrary to boo's claims I have been thru the "real deal". no "safe words", no panic button, no tapping out. it was continued until you either talked or lost consciousness. and then they woke you up and continued. done by some of the same guys who "tortured" those poor innocent terrorists at GITMO.
    You were interrogated? Do you mind elaborating?
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    You were interrogated? Care to elaborate?
    I dont know about anyone else but waterboarding is from time to time used during SERE training... it is not physically harmful, it is merely unpleasant... I would continue but I am not sure how much of it I am allowed to talk about
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    I REALLY dont feel like being interviewed by AFOSI, but suffice it to say that the only rules we really had for field interrogations was that we were not allowed to leave any permanent marks... and I only did continuation training at the squadron / wing level.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Schutzengel View Post
    I REALLY dont feel like being interviewed by AFOSI, but suffice it to say that the only rules we really had for field interrogations was that we were not allowed to leave any permanent marks... and I only did continuation training at the squadron / wing level.
    Ah. I guess it was/is an Air Force thing, then. Sounds terrible.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Das Sozialist View Post
    Ah. I guess it was/is an Air Force thing, then. Sounds terrible.
    No comment... compared the the rest of SERE school... literally being driven to the edge of death... seeing how close you could come to death without actually going over the edge...

    there are several tools used in the USAF SERE school... this is just one, and it is effective, it is a matter of the targets perception. I will leave it at that, there is never a threat of lasting physical harm to the target.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    unfortunately Nothing about the survival school can be talked about in anything other than the boadest most sweeping terms... everyone who has attended this class known as SV-80A is under military order not to disclose any of the specific contents of training... so I will have to leave any further discussion about it there http://www.specialtactics.com/SV80Handout.pdf see page 16 for everything you need to know.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Schutzengel View Post
    I dont know about anyone else but waterboarding is from time to time used during SERE training... it is not physically harmful, it is merely unpleasant... I would continue but I am not sure how much of it I am allowed to talk about
    Congressional testimony that it isn't same is linked earlier in the thread. So, it was talked about.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    You know hundreds who only know one. They don't know the other, thus can't compare. Sorry, but you're missing the point.



    They did head the program yes, and yes they KNOW both.

    If anyone has cognitive dissonance here it is you. You're dancing all around the point. And have offered nothing to support your claim.
    No, they don't know both. They didn't "design" the course, and are no more knowledgeable on it than me. The main testimony of the SERE experts to congress involved their discomfort at haveing been used as advisors to interrogators, correctly stating that their expirience was in familiarizing US servicemen with interrogation techniques, not in training interrogators. The people that gave testimony did not design the course, the were not waterboarded as POWs, they were simply SERE instructors/leadership.

    You're not missing the point, Boo, you simply do not know what the point is.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Schutzengel View Post
    I dont know about anyone else but waterboarding is from time to time used during SERE training... it is not physically harmful, it is merely unpleasant... I would continue but I am not sure how much of it I am allowed to talk about
    exactly. and I refuse to divulge too much personal details because there are douchebags on this forum that would try to use such information against me in the future.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Congressional testimony that it isn't same is linked earlier in the thread. So, it was talked about.
    politically driven testimony. the training is the same. you can't quit, you can't tap out, they keep going until you break or you pass the **** out. there are no significant differences
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