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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by muciti View Post
    I think most people know it is torture. The better question would be is this type of torture acceptable?
    For me, none. It is immoral and largely ineffective.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Navy Pride View Post
    They have no loved one held by a terrorist who might have his or head chopped off.......
    Why do terrorist only chop the head off of torture supporting Right wing hacks?

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    MNo, I haven't. Over the years I've read much on it. I point to congressional testimony, linking all of it because it is on point. I also point the person who designed the program, ran it, testified, and wrote a book on it. I've supported my position fully. You have not.
    Right, what you've read about it.

    I literally know hundreds of people that went through it, I know quite personally, many of the instructors that teach it, and many of the COs that have run it.

    None of them (that I have spoken to specifically about waterboarding) agree with you.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by IndieVisible View Post
    It's torture! Try it and see for yourself like Christopher Hitchens did..

    Watch Christopher Hitchens Get Waterboarded

    What a lying little prick. He's wearing the same shirt as in the demonstration and yet he's had several nights of nightmares as a result? He taped the interview the same day.
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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by IndieVisible View Post
    It's torture! Try it and see for yourself like Christopher Hitchens did..

    Watch Christopher Hitchens Get Waterboarded

    That is a shorter amount of time and less water used then what is done to SERE students.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Right, what you've read about it.

    I literally know hundreds of people that went through it, I know quite personally, many of the instructors that teach it, and many of the COs that have run it.

    None of them (that I have spoken to specifically about waterboarding) agree with you.
    No, you know hundreds who went through SERE, which we know, and any logical person knows isn't the same thing. And a mass delusion is still a delusion. Agian, I've supported my position. You have not.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, you know hundreds who went through SERE, which we know, and any logical person knows isn't the same thing. And a mass delusion is still a delusion. Agian, I've supported my position. You have not.
    No, I have went through it, I know hundreds that have went through it (including waterboarding) I know the instructors and leaders of the course, and I know the civilian advisors to the course. In fact, the current SEL of one of the two
    Navy SERE schools is a personal friend of over 20 years.

    Read some more, Boo.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    No, I have went through it, I know hundreds that have went through it (including waterboarding) I know the instructors and leaders of the course, and I know the civilian advisors to the course. In fact, the current SEL of one of the two
    Navy SERE schools is a personal friend of over 20 years.

    Read some more, Boo.
    No, you went through a small sample. Nothing more. If you were not captured by a real enemy, you only got a sample. Again, I've linked testimony on this given to congress. You view, too close to see the forest, isn't accurate.

    I assume your personal friend is a person, which is hard to make out in your sentence, but if he is the fellow who ran it, he testified before congress. And said otherwise. Sorry.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No, you went through a small sample. Nothing more.
    Incorrect. I've been through several levels of it. I've observed it done to others. And I know hundreds of others that can say the same.

    If you were not captured by a real enemy, you only got a sample.
    Which is more than you.

    Again, I've linked testimony on this given to congress.
    Right, a sound bite.

    You view, too close to see the forest, isn't accurate.
    Again, I have FAR more personal exp with it than you.

    I assume your personal friend is a person,
    I only count people as personal friends...

    which is hard to make out in your sentence,
    if you have trouble reading English.

    but if he is the fellow who ran it, he testified before congress. And said otherwise. Sorry.
    SEL means Senior Enlisted leader. And there is not one person running one program.

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    Re: Do you think water boarding is torture?

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Incorrect. I've been through several levels of it. I've observed it done to others. And I know hundreds of others that can say the same.



    Which is more than you.



    Right, a sound bite.



    Again, I have FAR more personal exp with it than you.



    I only count people as personal friends...



    if you have trouble reading English.



    SEL means Senior Enlisted leader. And there is not one person running one program.
    You can go off all you want, but that isn't evidence. And you last snetence said this: Navy SERE schools is a personal friend of over 20 years. I assumed SEL was one and this sentence was the other. But, not a name, no link, nothing verifable. I have supported my claim. You have not. ANd running off mad won't change that. We have testinmony before congress, very much verifiable, and it supports my claim and not yours. Sorry.

    AUSTAN GOOLSBEE: I think the world vests too much power, certainly in the president, probably in Washington in general for its influence on the economy, because most all of the economy has nothing to do with the government.

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