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  • im right wing and cbo is accurate

    1 5.26%
  • im left wing and cbo is accurate

    5 26.32%
  • im independant or no opinion and its accurate

    2 10.53%
  • im right wing and i think its inaccurate

    0 0%
  • im liberal and i think its inaccurate

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  • im independant and i think its inaccurate

    2 10.53%
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    1 5.26%
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    9 47.37%
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    Re: is cbo a reliable source.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    and as pointed out previously, such doesn't reconcile the issues with their estimates.... So why you would respond to me pointing out these issues, with the opinion that they're the most authoritive, when such doesn't address these issues, doesn't make much sense. Because such is completely * irrelevant* to my earlier point
    We all have limitations. That doesn't mean that some don't have more limitations than others. Every other entity that conducts legislative analysis, such as the Heritage Foundation have both more limitations and bias.

    The CBO remains both the most bipartisan and the most authoritative entity we have to consult on legislative analysis. That is my point.
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    Re: is cbo a reliable source.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    We all have limitations. That doesn't mean that some don't have more limitations than others. Every other entity that conducts legislative analysis, such as the Heritage Foundation have both more limitations and bias.

    The CBO remains both the most bipartisan and the most authoritative entity we have to consult on legislative analysis. That is my point.
    Here's your problem: despite your disagreement with the heritage foundation, they could do an estimate based on certain provisions not being fully enacted. So prior to passing any judgement on a report, you would need to actually read it, because 1) how the CBO conducts it's analysis is fundamentally flawed 2) other organizations can correct for that

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    Re: is cbo a reliable source.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    Here's your problem: despite your disagreement with the heritage foundation, they could do an estimate based on certain provisions not being fully enacted. So prior to passing any judgement on a report, you would need to actually read it, because 1) how the CBO conducts it's analysis is fundamentally flawed 2) other organizations can correct for that
    The heritage foundation, as well as other organizations, don't have access to all the data the CBO does and the HF has demonstrated heavy bias.
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    Re: is cbo a reliable source.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The heritage foundation, as well as other organizations, don't have access to all the data the CBO does and the HF has demonstrated heavy bias.
    you're appealing to a number of fallacies (genetic, for one) and ignoring the point of my post: that any organization, not just the heritage foundation, can improve on the methods of the cbo, because their estimates are fundamentally flawed (they assume something that rarely happens)

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    Re: is cbo a reliable source.

    For what? Their static scoring methodology, for example, is utter crap.

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    Re: is cbo a reliable source.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    you're appealing to a number of fallacies (genetic, for one) and ignoring the point of my post: that any organization, not just the heritage foundation, can improve on the methods of the cbo, because their estimates are fundamentally flawed (they assume something that rarely happens)
    hey usually prepare several versions based on varying scenarios of the legislation to help compensate for unknowns. It is the CBO that is used by both parties in Congress and not the HF. HF is not considered bipartisan as is the CBO.
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    Re: is cbo a reliable source.

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    hey usually prepare several versions based on varying scenarios of the legislation to help compensate for unknowns. It is the CBO that is used by both parties in Congress and not the HF. HF is not considered bipartisan as is the CBO.
    see my original post

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    Re: is cbo a reliable source.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    see my original post
    Got a link?
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