View Poll Results: Would you own an assault Rifle? Why?

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  • No! Only crazies own assault rifles.

    15 11.11%
  • No, they are too expensive!

    7 5.19%
  • No, no need to.

    41 30.37%
  • Yes, for self defense

    44 32.59%
  • Yes, for recreation and sport

    52 38.52%
  • Yes, to perform my patriotic duty if the nation is invaded

    43 31.85%
  • Yes, because it's my constiutional right

    45 33.33%
  • Yes, because I'm one of the CRAZIES!!! hahahahaha

    15 11.11%
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Thread: Why would you own an assault rifle?

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    If they try to purchase from a dealer then arrest them, it is illegal simply to attempt to purchase a weapon with a felony background. If they were involuntarily committed to a mental institution don't sell to them, no dealer actually would anyway. If they buy them off the street you can't do anything until they are caught, no law or furtherance of law will stop that. But you CAN add years to a sentence if a felon is caught in possession.

    Doesn't appear to be working..........

    "Two months before neuroscience student James Eagan Holmes allegedly shot 71 moviegoers, killing at least 12, at a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, Colo., he stopped by Gander Mountain, an outdoor shop that sells guns and ammunition, and bought a Glock 40 pistol. Over that eight-week period, according to a local law-enforcement source who spoke on the condition of anonymity, he purchased four more weapons, including a shotgun and an assault rifle from different gun shops around Aurora and Denver—and 6,000 rounds of ammunition from the Internet."

    How Alleged Colorado Shooter James Holmes Bought His Guns - The Daily Beast








    It's a cherry picked fact, when you weight crimes committed regardless of the weapon the U.S. goes down the list dramatically, but if you want to keep up this line be my guest. You are not correct. If you are killed by a wood chipper you're still dead, so it is incredibly deceptive to have a "violent gun crime" and "other violent crime" seperation.
    LOL! Which wealthy populous country has more humans killed by wood chippers than the US does with guns?





    Have you ever tried to purchase a gun? I have purchased firearms and can tell you that the checks are incredibly thourough already.

    I purchased a gun from a guy I worked with, no questions asked by anyone! Look how easy it was for the Aurora killer and the Virginia Tech killer and others for them to purchase their guns. Many states I believe, allow people to purchase guns at a gun show without a waiting period.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I have provided actual numbers that show that more humans are killed intentionally with firearms in the US than in other wealthy populous nations. Your sub-categories do not alter that fact, is much as you may wish that it would.
    Actually, all you presented was a generalized statistic. It's like saying all alcohol related traffic accidents and including those where the sober driver ran a stop sign, you provided no CRIMINAL data, just a blind statistic. Again, if I must shoot someone to protect myself or another from physical harm and kill that is an intentional homicide but not murder, manslaughter, or suicide(obviously). So, if you take out suicide and defensive shooting what are the CRIMINAL numbers? Remember, YOU are making the claim that restricting the right to ALL is going to solve the CRIMINAL problem.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Actually, all you presented was a generalized statistic. It's like saying all alcohol related traffic accidents and including those where the sober driver ran a stop sign, you provided no CRIMINAL data, just a blind statistic. Again, if I must shoot someone to protect myself or another from physical harm and kill that is an intentional homicide but not murder, manslaughter, or suicide(obviously). So, if you take out suicide and defensive shooting what are the CRIMINAL numbers? Remember, YOU are making the claim that restricting the right to ALL is going to solve the CRIMINAL problem.
    why is it that the gun banners or peaceniks or utopian pillow headed idealists who whine about guns NEVER WANT TO TELL US WHAT LAWS THEY WANT?

    I am always upfront on what laws I want. it starts with everyone 18 or older who is competent to own a weapon being able to buy, without a license or anything more than an instant background check. every weapon that any civilian law enforcement agency owns or any weapon with the same specifications (i.e. if the cops carry 17 shot 9mm glocks, 17 shot smith and wesson pistols would also be available

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    tell us why that matters.

    Tell you why it matters that way more humans in the US are killed intentionally by firearms than in other wealthy nations? Take a walk outside of your gated community and ask the victims of the Aurora killer, or the Virginia Tech killer, etc, etc............
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Doesn't appear to be working..........

    "Two months before neuroscience student James Eagan Holmes allegedly shot 71 moviegoers, killing at least 12, at a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, Colo., he stopped by Gander Mountain, an outdoor shop that sells guns and ammunition, and bought a Glock 40 pistol. Over that eight-week period, according to a local law-enforcement source who spoke on the condition of anonymity, he purchased four more weapons, including a shotgun and an assault rifle from different gun shops around Aurora and Denver—and 6,000 rounds of ammunition from the Internet."
    GASP, laws don't change criminal behavior. Call me shocked but isn't the definition of a criminal by nature someone who DOESN'T FOLLOW LAWS.

    LOL! Which wealthy populous country has more humans killed by wood chippers than the US does with guns?
    Which "wealthy country" has the highest violent crime rate overall? Hint, it's the U.K.







    I purchased a gun from a guy I worked with, no questions asked by anyone! Look how easy it was for the Aurora killer and the Virginia Tech killer and others for them to purchase their guns. Many states I believe, allow people to purchase guns at a gun show without a waiting period.
    First off, you didn't buy from a dealer. Secondly if you actually did buy the gun as you claim from "the guy from work" it's a private sale, no law against that unless he would suspect that you wanted to use it in commission of a crime. "The guy from work" I assume knows you well enough to realize you aren't going to go and kill someone. Either way you are grasping here.
    Last edited by LaMidRighter; 08-10-12 at 10:36 PM.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Doesn't appear to be working..........

    "Two months before neuroscience student James Eagan Holmes allegedly shot 71 moviegoers, killing at least 12, at a midnight showing of The Dark Knight Rises in Aurora, Colo., he stopped by Gander Mountain, an outdoor shop that sells guns and ammunition, and bought a Glock 40 pistol. Over that eight-week period, according to a local law-enforcement source who spoke on the condition of anonymity, he purchased four more weapons, including a shotgun and an assault rifle from different gun shops around Aurora and Denver—and 6,000 rounds of ammunition from the Internet."

    How Alleged Colorado Shooter James Holmes Bought His Guns - The Daily Beast










    LOL! Which wealthy populous country has more humans killed by wood chippers than the US does with guns?








    I purchased a gun from a guy I worked with, no questions asked by anyone! Look how easy it was for the Aurora killer and the Virginia Tech killer and others for them to purchase their guns. Many states I believe, allow people to purchase guns at a gun show without a waiting period.
    you are ignorant about gun laws. gun shows mean nothing, the laws are the same no matter where a sale takes place

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    why is it that the gun banners or peaceniks or utopian pillow headed idealists who whine about guns NEVER WANT TO TELL US WHAT LAWS THEY WANT?

    I am always upfront on what laws I want. it starts with everyone 18 or older who is competent to own a weapon being able to buy, without a license or anything more than an instant background check. every weapon that any civilian law enforcement agency owns or any weapon with the same specifications (i.e. if the cops carry 17 shot 9mm glocks, 17 shot smith and wesson pistols would also be available
    I think it's a lack of any real knowledge on the banner bandwagon's part. They want to ban things that "look scary", "look tactical", or my favorite is the knee jerk reaction to a specific design used in a singular event.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

    LMR

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I think it's a lack of any real knowledge on the banner bandwagon's part. They want to ban things that "look scary", "look tactical", or my favorite is the knee jerk reaction to a specific design used in a singular event.

    I am still waiting for Catawba-who has been on this thread through hundreds of posts-to tell us what sort of laws he thinks will solve the problems that bother him so much

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I am still waiting for Catawba-who has been on this thread through hundreds of posts-to tell us what sort of laws he thinks will solve the problems that bother him so much
    If I had to guess it would be:
    1) Railguns
    2) Anything with a firing pin
    3) Anything rimfire
    4) Anything that uses a powder charge
    5) Anything that discharges a round
    6) Popguns
    7) potato guns
    8) Anything that goes bang
    9) Joke guns that have the bang flag.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    If I had to guess it would be:
    1) Railguns
    2) Anything with a firing pin
    3) Anything rimfire
    4) Anything that uses a powder charge
    5) Anything that discharges a round
    6) Popguns
    7) potato guns
    8) Anything that goes bang
    9) Joke guns that have the bang flag.

    airsoft
    cap guns
    squirt guns

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