View Poll Results: Would you own an assault Rifle? Why?

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  • No! Only crazies own assault rifles.

    15 11.11%
  • No, they are too expensive!

    7 5.19%
  • No, no need to.

    41 30.37%
  • Yes, for self defense

    44 32.59%
  • Yes, for recreation and sport

    52 38.52%
  • Yes, to perform my patriotic duty if the nation is invaded

    43 31.85%
  • Yes, because it's my constiutional right

    45 33.33%
  • Yes, because I'm one of the CRAZIES!!! hahahahaha

    15 11.11%
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Im pretty sure that Timothy McVeigh was a redneck. Those crazy Militia guys are all rednecks as well. And all KKK idiots are rednecks.


    What iI find stereotypical of rednecks is that they are too stupid to realize that the redneck title is a insult. Its kind of like those African American gang bangers running around calling themselves niggers. Whats next white guys calling themselves honkies or white trash? Oh wait some already call themselves rednecks...
    "I ain't nothin' but a simple man
    They call me a redneck I reckon that I am
    But there's things going on
    That make me mad down to the core.

    I have to work like a dog to make ends meet
    There's crooked politicians and crime in the street
    And I'm madder'n hell and I ain't gonna take it no more.
    ...
    Well, you know what's wrong with the world today
    People done gone and put their Bible's away
    They're living by the law of the jungle not the law of the land
    The good book says it so I know it's the truth
    An eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth
    You better watch where you go and remember where you been
    That's the way I see it I'm a Simple Man."

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    "I ain't nothin' but a simple man
    They call me a redneck I reckon that I am
    But there's things going on
    That make me mad down to the core.

    I have to work like a dog to make ends meet
    There's crooked politicians and crime in the street
    And I'm madder'n hell and I ain't gonna take it no more.
    ...
    Well, you know what's wrong with the world today
    People done gone and put their Bible's away
    They're living by the law of the jungle not the law of the land
    The good book says it so I know it's the truth
    An eye for and eye and a tooth for a tooth
    You better watch where you go and remember where you been
    That's the way I see it I'm a Simple Man."

    CDB--Simple Man
    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    "What most people call a redkneck ain't noth'n but a working man
    he makes his living by the sweat of his brow and calluses on his hands
    ...
    What this world needs is a few more rednecks
    Some people ain't afraid to take a stand
    What this world needs is a little more respect
    For the Lord and the law and the workin' man
    We could use a little peace and satisfaction
    Some good people up front to take the lead
    A little less talk and a little more action
    And a few more rednecks is what we need"

    CDB--What this World needs is a Few More Rednecks.
    Yes Charlie Danials thinks that the term redneck equals the working man.

    Redneck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Redneck is a derogatory slang term used in reference to poor, uneducated white farmers, especially from the southern United States.[1][2] It is similar in meaning to cracker (especially regarding Georgia and Florida), hillbilly (especially regarding Appalachia and the Ozarks),[3] and white trash (but without the last term's suggestions of immorality).[4][5][6]
    In recent decades, the term has expanded its meaning to refer to bigoted, loutish reactionaries who are opposed to modern ways,[7] and has often been used to attack Southern conservatives and racists.[8] At the same time, some Southern whites have reclaimed the word, using it with pride and defiance as a self-identifier.[9]


    Again it is just like a African American calling them self a nigger. Its just makes them self look stupid. You know you are a redneck when? All of those jokes the Jeff Foxworthy are making implies that rednecks are stupid. And rednecks are stupid enough to agree with that implication which I find pathetic. As a American I am embarrassed by stupid rednecks. On top of the idiotic stereotypical redneck behavior you have rednecks running around claiming that America is a Christian nation as if Christianity is the state religion. Which just shows how stupid these rednecks really are. Next they believe the rhetoric that rednecks have to be right wing hacks. And even further they somehow believe the extreme Rights weird ass belief that America is not a democracy and that the people dont need to vote for anything. Further making me think that rednecks should not breed with their cousins anymore. But what does one expect from a bunch of women beating beer belly drunks out getting stuck in the mud?

    Not that I really think that all rednecks fit that description but that is what normally a redneck is. And when someone calls them self a redneck that is what everyone but rednecks think of them.
    In other words only a idiot would call them self a redneck if they knew what everyone else thinks a redneck is. And none of us really equates a redneck with a working man we equate it with fat stupid drunk white men. As a white man myself I am embarrassed for our race if rednecks are what people think of when they think of us.

    Redneck = racial slur

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Yes Charlie Danials thinks that the term redneck equals the working man.

    Redneck - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Redneck is a derogatory slang term used in reference to poor, uneducated white farmers, especially from the southern United States.[1][2] It is similar in meaning to cracker (especially regarding Georgia and Florida), hillbilly (especially regarding Appalachia and the Ozarks),[3] and white trash (but without the last term's suggestions of immorality).[4][5][6]
    In recent decades, the term has expanded its meaning to refer to bigoted, loutish reactionaries who are opposed to modern ways,[7] and has often been used to attack Southern conservatives and racists.[8] At the same time, some Southern whites have reclaimed the word, using it with pride and defiance as a self-identifier.[9]


    Again it is just like a African American calling them self a nigger. Its just makes them self look stupid. You know you are a redneck when? All of those jokes the Jeff Foxworthy are making implies that rednecks are stupid. And rednecks are stupid enough to agree with that implication which I find pathetic. As a American I am embarrassed by stupid rednecks. On top of the idiotic stereotypical redneck behavior you have rednecks running around claiming that America is a Christian nation as if Christianity is the state religion. Which just shows how stupid these rednecks really are. Next they believe the rhetoric that rednecks have to be right wing hacks. And even further they somehow believe the extreme Rights weird ass belief that America is not a democracy and that the people dont need to vote for anything. Further making me think that rednecks should not breed with their cousins anymore. But what does one expect from a bunch of women beating beer belly drunks out getting stuck in the mud?

    Not that I really think that all rednecks fit that description but that is what normally a redneck is. And when someone calls them self a redneck that is what everyone but rednecks think of them.
    In other words only a idiot would call them self a redneck if they knew what everyone else thinks a redneck is. And none of us really equates a redneck with a working man we equate it with fat stupid drunk white men. As a white man myself I am embarrassed for our race if rednecks are what people think of when they think of us.

    Redneck = racial slur
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    An insult from my enemy is a compliment to me and if you are not my enemy, they you wouldn't try to insult me.
    Im just trying to point out that people who do not consider themselves as rednecks think that the term redneck is derogatory and more often than not that is how they will use the term redneck when talking about people that call themselves rednecks.

    Im just cluing you into the reality that society thinks that the term redneck means stupid white people from the south. You can do what you want with that information accept it deny it I really do not care, but either way it wont change that perception as a truth. Rednecks are the punch line of a insulting joke and as I said it is stereotypical of a redneck to miss that obvious fact. My suggestion is to not be stereotypical of a racist accusation or you just confirm their prejudices against rednecks or a class of Americans.

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    My point is that longrange data does not support your point of view.
    It most certainly does as the US with the highest number of guns per person has the highest number of intentional homicide rates with guns by far of all the wealthy populous nations as has been shown. Nothing in the data you referenced disputes that.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It most certainly does as the US with the highest number of guns per person has the highest number of intentional homicide rates with guns by far of all the wealthy populous nations as has been shown. Nothing in the data you referenced disputes that.
    What's the murder rate?
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It most certainly does as the US with the highest number of guns per person has the highest number of intentional homicide rates with guns by far of all the wealthy populous nations as has been shown. Nothing in the data you referenced disputes that.
    What was the murder rate in 1900 vs present, and what was the gun ownership rate in 1900 vs present?

    Could something have changed in the last 100 years that affected the homicide rate, other than gun ownership? I'd say there have been massive changes in our society over that time period.


    BTW, since you don't like gun ownership, want the government to supply things like UHC and Welfare, support tighter and tighter enviromental restrictions, etc, what are you doing still living in the US? Most of your stances wouldn't be changes in France where your view point is a lot more common. Why don't you just pack your bag and head there, I think would think you'd be happier there.

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    We're about on the same page I believe. With psych testing, and I realize I made a bit of a mistake, I am not okay with mandatory but the same sworn affadavit system for further scrutiny could be applied to people who seem to have violent tendancies. With explosives, I think a good compromise is an explosives and explosive ordnance license covering everything from homemade bombs to C4, but only controlled explosives or ordnance and not WMDs in any way. As well, with ordnance and explosives anything not related to a controlled demolition would have to have an open space requirement, i.e. sure you can go blow stuff up but it better be a large field away from others.
    I'm actually more uncomfortable with the affadavit thing, because that seems more fascistic than simply visiting a shrink, the whole "Watch your Neighbor" thing. I think no explosives period, especially war explosives, grenades can be an exception. Like I said, terrorist-type bombs that can blow up a building (not controlled explosives used in peaceful demolitions) should not be allowed with strict licensing.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    It most certainly does as the US with the highest number of guns per person has the highest number of intentional homicide rates with guns by far of all the wealthy populous nations as has been shown. Nothing in the data you referenced disputes that.
    african countries have higher intentional murder rates than the US and they have fewer guns. you can try to qualify it all you want, but nothing you've posted proves that more guns = more murders.

    guns don't kill people....africans kill people. and a very big j/k
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I'm actually more uncomfortable with the affadavit thing, because that seems more fascistic than simply visiting a shrink, the whole "Watch your Neighbor" thing. I think no explosives period, especially war explosives, grenades can be an exception. Like I said, terrorist-type bombs that can blow up a building (not controlled explosives used in peaceful demolitions) should not be allowed with strict licensing.
    I get where the affadavit thing sounds pretty bad, but I don't mean that it could be used to empower neighbors to harass people for just any reason. I think with the sworn affadavit things like the gun range owner in Colorado, or gun dealers who refused sale to someone because of behaviors that could be dangerous should be able to report extreme things they run across to authorities, and there should be legal penalties for a bad faith reporting, i.e., making something up for harassment, payback, or any agendas not based on immediate public interest. Explosives are legal already, they require a license though, and these are used by professional demolition crews, oil surveyors, mine companies, etc. the weaponized explosives aren't currently legal but I say if a person has plenty of space and wants to blow stuff up at their own risk.........more power to them.

    What concerns me isn't necessarily the professional explosive materials, it's the criminals who weaponize household chemicals, average lawnscaping nitrate products, and other over the counter consumer grade stuff to do bad things. It's impossible to track those things versus say......C4, TNT, etc.
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