View Poll Results: Would you own an assault Rifle? Why?

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  • No! Only crazies own assault rifles.

    15 11.11%
  • No, they are too expensive!

    7 5.19%
  • No, no need to.

    41 30.37%
  • Yes, for self defense

    44 32.59%
  • Yes, for recreation and sport

    52 38.52%
  • Yes, to perform my patriotic duty if the nation is invaded

    43 31.85%
  • Yes, because it's my constiutional right

    45 33.33%
  • Yes, because I'm one of the CRAZIES!!! hahahahaha

    15 11.11%
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    On another note... a sick and devious mind is going to employ tactics like making gasoline bombs, homemade grenades, and generally any other IED device. All it takes is a little time, a place to experiment with the chemicals, and maybe MINOR technical knowledge. I mean how many people are certified electricians, and how many of us can go online and find out about simple electrical devices? Hell you could go to the public library if you wanted too. I am sure if (and when) any redneck put their mind to it...they could come up with explosives that could kill dozens.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Yes, I'd own one. Better to be prepared, having one, than to need one and not have a mosquitoes chance in hell if you did need it. As we have seen from the past, a people unprotected is a people left at the hands of lunatics.

    When a government makes laws to take away weapons or not allow any from the get go, the people are left vulnerable to the evil doers.

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    On another note... a sick and devious mind is going to employ tactics like making gasoline bombs, homemade grenades, and generally any other IED device. All it takes is a little time, a place to experiment with the chemicals, and maybe MINOR technical knowledge. I mean how many people are certified electricians, and how many of us can go online and find out about simple electrical devices? Hell you could go to the public library if you wanted too. I am sure if (and when) any redneck put their mind to it...they could come up with explosives that could kill dozens.
    Easy on the rednecks, they ain't the ones been doing ****. BTW, myself at least and probably several others have been intentionally not pointing out more deadly ways. Now how are you going to feel if the next idiot that does something actually uses something you mentioned?

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Easy on the rednecks, they ain't the ones been doing ****. BTW, myself at least and probably several others have been intentionally not pointing out more deadly ways. Now how are you going to feel if the next idiot that does something actually uses something you mentioned?
    A) I am a redneck and pointing out one of our fundamental flaws when it comes to Darwinism is hardly an insult. Just a simple observance of truth.

    B) I have said nothing that hasn't already been done. Columbine, aurora, Oklahoma, Aryan nation , and for god's sake even the animal liberation front. I mean if those numbskulls have the ability to do it? Plus with all the coverage in aurora you think that isn't news?
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    gun control was never intended to be crime control but ethnic control

    Klansman didn't want freed blacks having guns

    wasps didn't want "papists" having guns

    the Irish pols who ran NYC didn't want Italians having guns

    and once again, rich dems don't want poor whites or blacks having guns
    There's a subtle but important difference.

    Democrats don't claim an inherent SUPERIORITY over poor people.

    Klownsmen claimed SUPERIORITY over black people.

    Wasps claimed SUPERIORITY over Catholics

    Irish claimed SUPERIORITY over Italians, not to mention that at the time there were immigration crime groups like Irish mobs and the American Mafia.

    Democrats who hated the poor would be much more blatant about it.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Good news for you, as I'll address further, most of what you want is already law to and extent. Though that can be refined a bit. I'll explain.

    Anyone with a felony conviction or dishonorable discharge is already disbarred legally from owning a weapon. To refine that I would rather that the felonies be only those that are violent or have violence as a component(black market felonies) and I would remove dishonorable discharge, they are both catchalls that overgeneralize the removal of rights. If they were shortened in scope to eliminate non-violent offenses and had a period certain opportunity for the restitution of rights for good behavior it would be perfect law.
    I think only violent FELONS should have gun rights removed, as well as those with ties to violent organized crime groups.

    Anyone involuntarily committed to an institution of mental health is disqualified from owning a gun, I like your idea of only limiting mental disorders to those of violence or potential psychotic breaks, makes more sense than someone within the fully functioning autism spectrum being disbarred "just because". I think upon conditions of medicating the problem within control some people could have their rights restored. But I am not willing to go as far as mandatory testing for everyone who wants a gun, it's a little too far on the prior restraint side for my tastes. Rights do have some responsibilities and risks.
    A lot of the disorders I listed don't confine people to mental institutions. Obviously under normal circumstances someone in an asylum isn't going to get guns anytime soon. Psychopaths, however, aren't delusional, and they are very good at pretending to be normal, so it would be harder to catch them without a psych exam. If a shrink evaluating gun customers leads to too many accidental lack of gun rights for people who are sane, I would be willing to go with your idea.

    I also don't think that ALL mental disorders should lead to no gun rights. I'm on the autism spectrum and I could probably handle guns, although I don't particularly like having them around. It is an unsupported myth that aspies are violent - only if they have comorbidity with a mental illness that causes aggression they are not really prone to violence.

    No argument to your first group.........but you have to prove it, street gangs would be the most preferable group, they are the most random in application of violence. You have to go out of your way to be on a Mafia hit list, and cartels are a combination of being in the wrong place at the wrong time OR being in their way. Street gangs will shoot at the wrong address and call it a write off.
    I'm talking about actually being a member or a voluntary associate. Street gang members should definitely have no gun rights removed.

    [/QUOTE]Okay, no problem with restricting WMDs, they are indifferent weapons, area effective, and you don't aim them as much as disperse them. Explosives have a purpose, and a semi-safe handling, they shouldn't be outright legal but permittable, I have no problem with an advance license requirement for ownership and detonation. "Sniper" rifles are really just long guns, there is nothing about them that makes them deadlier than a hunting rifle, most large bore hunting rifles are accurate from +705yds to a little over a mile, with the longest shot ever placed on target at about 2mi. by a Canadian sniper using a Barrett .50cal. but just about any long barreled hunting rifle will shoot up to about a mile and on target if you know how to adjust for windage and loss of velocity.[/QUOTE]
    When I talk about explosives I'm talking more about bombs. Anything that can demolish an entire building or CITY is definitely out of line. I'm uncomfortable with allowing grenades as they have a very limited self-defense purpose. Any grenade license must have STRINGENT requirements and restrictions. I don't see why anyone who's not an LEO or in the armed forces would have explosives and grenades in the first place, as they would not work well for home defense or a possible mass shooting situation, but if grenades can be used responsibly in such a manner a strict registration program would not be a problem. Having illegal explosives and firearms without a license should be a FELONY with at LEAST 5-10 years in prison.

    Criminal background check, IF there is a further question by civilians(such as the gun range owner in Colorado) who notice behaviors that are a little off allow for them to sign a sworn affadavit, legally binding, that allows for further questioning/testing.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    There's a subtle but important difference.

    Democrats don't claim an inherent SUPERIORITY over poor people.

    Klownsmen claimed SUPERIORITY over black people.

    Wasps claimed SUPERIORITY over Catholics

    Irish claimed SUPERIORITY over Italians, not to mention that at the time there were immigration crime groups like Irish mobs and the American Mafia.

    Democrats who hated the poor would be much more blatant about it.
    Do remember that a Democrat then was not what a Democrat is today.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by MadLib View Post
    I think only violent FELONS should have gun rights removed, as well as those with ties to violent organized crime groups.


    A lot of the disorders I listed don't confine people to mental institutions. Obviously under normal circumstances someone in an asylum isn't going to get guns anytime soon. Psychopaths, however, aren't delusional, and they are very good at pretending to be normal, so it would be harder to catch them without a psych exam. If a shrink evaluating gun customers leads to too many accidental lack of gun rights for people who are sane, I would be willing to go with your idea.

    I also don't think that ALL mental disorders should lead to no gun rights. I'm on the autism spectrum and I could probably handle guns, although I don't particularly like having them around. It is an unsupported myth that aspies are violent - only if they have comorbidity with a mental illness that causes aggression they are not really prone to violence.


    I'm talking about actually being a member or a voluntary associate. Street gang members should definitely have no gun rights removed.

    We're about on the same page I believe. With psych testing, and I realize I made a bit of a mistake, I am not okay with mandatory but the same sworn affadavit system for further scrutiny could be applied to people who seem to have violent tendancies. With explosives, I think a good compromise is an explosives and explosive ordnance license covering everything from homemade bombs to C4, but only controlled explosives or ordnance and not WMDs in any way. As well, with ordnance and explosives anything not related to a controlled demolition would have to have an open space requirement, i.e. sure you can go blow stuff up but it better be a large field away from others.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Easy on the rednecks, they ain't the ones been doing ****. BTW, myself at least and probably several others have been intentionally not pointing out more deadly ways. Now how are you going to feel if the next idiot that does something actually uses something you mentioned?


    Im pretty sure that Timothy McVeigh was a redneck. Those crazy Militia guys are all rednecks as well. And all KKK idiots are rednecks.


    What iI find stereotypical of rednecks is that they are too stupid to realize that the redneck title is a insult. Its kind of like those African American gang bangers running around calling themselves niggers. Whats next white guys calling themselves honkies or white trash? Oh wait some already call themselves rednecks...
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    Im pretty sure that Timothy McVeigh was a redneck. Those crazy Militia guys are all rednecks as well. And all KKK idiots are rednecks.


    What iI find stereotypical of rednecks is that they are too stupid to realize that the redneck title is a insult. Its kind of like those African American gang bangers running around calling themselves niggers. Whats next white guys calling themselves honkies or white trash? Oh wait some already call themselves rednecks...
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