View Poll Results: Would you own an assault Rifle? Why?

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  • No! Only crazies own assault rifles.

    15 11.11%
  • No, they are too expensive!

    7 5.19%
  • No, no need to.

    41 30.37%
  • Yes, for self defense

    44 32.59%
  • Yes, for recreation and sport

    52 38.52%
  • Yes, to perform my patriotic duty if the nation is invaded

    43 31.85%
  • Yes, because it's my constiutional right

    45 33.33%
  • Yes, because I'm one of the CRAZIES!!! hahahahaha

    15 11.11%
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    home defense means you are not far from ammo-have a 20 round drum in the gun-2 twelve rounders on the Level III vest

    use low recoil #4 tactical buck rather than triple ought
    OT: Unless you own good land, why would you be @ home during the Zombie Apoc?
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Those are beautiful, I'm actually watching a Nutnfancy 1911 video right now. According to him Smith makes the best 1911's; but I always wanted a Sig or Ruger. My friend swears by Springfield and Colt but those are out of my price range (for now.)
    Generally speaking, whomever makes the most expensive 1911 makes the best one... altho years ago I had a plain jane alloy Springfield 1911 and it worked just fine over probably a thousand rounds. It was cheap too, although I think they build them in South America or some such... or maybe it's some ex-communist country in Europe (or perhaps that's their plastic pistols).

    Hell, Norinco (Chinese) used to make a 1911, maybe they still do -- loosey goosey but they worked. Mechanically the 1911 is a rather crude pistol, but -- it works. Not as crude as a Glock, of course

    Buddy of mine who I've lost track of (moved) who was an excellent gunsmith thought the Luger was a well designed weapon. Not too many fans in this country, however (I know practically zero about them).

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    OT: Unless you own good land, why would you be @ home during the Zombie Apoc?
    target rich environment. plus I have a really good Howard Clark Katana-wanna see how many zombie heads I can get with one swing

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

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    good to see you held fire to see what was really going on... half your good friends are how many? They were what in the Green Machine? Do they still call it the Green machine or say 'FTA all the way!' ? What was their motto when they rendered a hand salute? My last unit was 'Scouts Out, Sir!".

    I would hazard a few dozen soldiers have passed through Ft Benning school for bad boys since I graduated from Ft. Puke. I'll bet few call the M16a1 a Mattel Toy- an SSG from Ft. Sill's Infantry Weapons School came down to sharpen his skills says the M16a1 is now called a musket due to it's length compared to the M4. Your buddies, if they are 11Bush, don't drag a pig around.

    I'm willing to bet a shiny Challenge coin there are a literal short ton of sayings and expressions that have come and gone over the decades. (had you ever heard of the 7P's before? there is at least two versions of it)

    Now talking down to anyone. I believe if you go back and re-read my posts you might see someone showing they have a bit of training and some practical experience to go along with their opinion.

    Never said owning an AR/AK was stupid, just sometimes folks go goofy trying to force various square pegs into rounds holes.

    Yes I have a tacti-cool shotgun, used to teach it, made sense to own one to practice a bit...

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Goshin-
    good to see you held fire to see what was really going on... half your good friends are how many? They were what in the Green Machine? Do they still call it the Green machine or say 'FTA all the way!' ? What was their motto when they rendered a hand salute? My last unit was 'Scouts Out, Sir!".

    I would hazard a few dozen soldiers have passed through Ft Benning school for bad boys since I graduated from Ft. Puke. I'll bet few call the M16a1 a Mattel Toy- an SSG from Ft. Sill's Infantry Weapons School came down to sharpen his skills says the M16a1 is now called a musket due to it's length compared to the M4. Your buddies, if they are 11Bush, don't drag a pig around.

    I'm willing to bet a shiny Challenge coin there are a literal short ton of sayings and expressions that have come and gone over the decades. (had you ever heard of the 7P's before? there is at least two versions of it)

    Now talking down to anyone. I believe if you go back and re-read my posts you might see someone showing they have a bit of training and some practical experience to go along with their opinion.

    Never said owning an AR/AK was stupid, just sometimes folks go goofy trying to force various square pegs into rounds holes.

    Yes I have a tacti-cool shotgun, used to teach it, made sense to own one to practice a bit...

    Hell I'd have to think hard to remember each one's spec.... couple of Rangers, couple of Marines (and hoo boy do they give each other hell), couple of 11Bravos, a former 11B now recruiter, a medic, a motor pool guy, and the rest I forget. Sometimes they talk in acronyms and slang so much I have bitch at them to give me a mil-spec dictionary.

    Don't think I ever heard any of them say "The Green Machine", but the Marines call their service "The crotch", probably a play on "The Corps".... but heaven forbid anyone else says it.

    The Rangers have an annoying habit of answering questions with "Airborne!", and to randomly interject "Rangers lead the way!" into conversations.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    You ever see that Sons of Guns Ruger 10/22 in a P90ish bullpup for their "Ultimate Zombie Gun"?
    That show rocks. Some advice for the anti-gun folk out there: If you insist on not owning a gun, make friends with your local gunsmith anyway. Buy them a pizza once in awhile (or a beer, even better). Trust me on this. Just in case.

    I don't know if this was the episode you're talking about, this clip has them modifying an M-16:

    Zombie Killer | Sons of Guns - YouTube

    Stephanie: "What do you add to a full-auto M-16"?
    Will: "A grenade launcher. Something that says you really care."
    Then he adds a bayonet too. Must-see TV.

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by GJ Flash View Post
    That show rocks. Some advice for the anti-gun folk out there: If you insist on not owning a gun, make friends with your local gunsmith anyway. Buy them a pizza once in awhile (or a beer, even better). Trust me on this. Just in case.

    I don't know if this was the episode you're talking about, this clip has them modifying an M-16:

    Zombie Killer | Sons of Guns - YouTube

    Stephanie: "What do you add to a full-auto M-16"?
    Will: "A grenade launcher. Something that says you really care."
    Then he adds a bayonet too. Must-see TV.
    Yup, thats the one, full episode is on youtube as well. Season 3 Episode 8
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    The gun control issue is one of the more complicated issues. With something like SSM or even tax issues you can pretty quickly come up with an opinion even if you are not well educated on the matter. Gun issues are a bit more complicated. Gun experts and LEO in general seem to be more gun-rights so that's where I lean. My POV is that rather than restricting what types of guns people can have we should restrict what kinds of people can have guns.

    People who DEFINITELY should have limited or no access to firearms:

    1. Convicted violent felons, or at the very least felons convicted of an aggravated violent felony

    2. The mentally insane. Of course it depends on the disorder, someone with a Cluster B personality disorder (this includes psychopathy, which is the primary reason I chose Cluster B: psychopaths should have NO access to firearms as they are incapable of responsible or non-criminal use of weapons); it also includes borderline personality disorder (excessively emotional), histrionic personality disorder (excessive pathological attention-seeking), and narcissistic (arrogance with a touch of total lack of empathy)). Paranoid schizophrenics should have LIMITED access to guns because although unlike Cluster B they are not inclined towards violence, they cannot differentiate between reality and imagination and may hallucinate a burglar and end up shooting their neighbor. While registering to get a gun (something I believe could be necessary)* people should be given a psychological exam to see if they are mentally fit to own a gun.

    People who reasonably could have access to firearms restricted:

    1. People with ties to organized crime groups like Mexican drug cartels or Mafia

    2. Non-citizens. Illegals should be given no access to weaponry.

    If I were to restrict weapons I would say off-the-bat no WMDs (nukes, bio weapons, chem weapons), no explosives. If I had to restrict any firearm in particular it would be a sniper rifle. Reason being is that's past the reasonable point for self-defense - a 14.5114mm cartrige could be fired over a mile away. I don't think people should be given access to guns like that in the highly improbable case of a revolution against the government. At that point the law is void anyway.

    *I understand that criminals could find ways to get arms without registering, which makes me a bit iffy on registration. I think registration should be simple: a psychology test, background check, etc. It should be ABSOLUTELY FREE to register although a minor tax on automatics might be a little useful. Since registering would be free it would be a FELONY to get unregistered weapons in the United States of MadLib.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    8. Guns are not "deadly"... people are deadly. A gun in the hands of a sensible person with no criminal intent is pretty harmless.
    This is my absolutely favorite gun-rights argument. It's simultaneously stupid - because the gun-rights people don't normally restrict who can own a gun and just cuz - and sensible because people do carry out the crimes. However if we're going to get that technical then people don't kill people nor do guns - ammunition kills people. I say we legalize the guns but outlaw the ammunition
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    So what? They are illegall in Mexico, but the cartels have them.

    Yes, they are illegal in Mexico so they get them from the US where they are legal and they can buy them through our inadequate gun control laws here.


    You can thank Holder and the justice department for making it easier for them, oh, and by the way, they have more untraceable guns there than traceable, the traceable ones are from the U.S. because we are one of the few countries that require serial numbers to be included.
    They have been getting them from the US since our ban here ended, that is why a sting operation was undertaken.
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