View Poll Results: Would you own an assault Rifle? Why?

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  • No! Only crazies own assault rifles.

    15 11.11%
  • No, they are too expensive!

    7 5.19%
  • No, no need to.

    41 30.37%
  • Yes, for self defense

    44 32.59%
  • Yes, for recreation and sport

    52 38.52%
  • Yes, to perform my patriotic duty if the nation is invaded

    43 31.85%
  • Yes, because it's my constiutional right

    45 33.33%
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    15 11.11%
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "The government said Thursday that 68,000 guns recovered by Mexican authorities in the past five years have been traced back to the United States."

    "Mexican President Felipe Calderon said the U.S. government has not done enough to stop the flow of assault weapons and other guns from the U.S. to Mexico."

    "Mexican law enforcement officials report that certain types of rifles such as AK variants with detachable magazines are being used more frequently by drug trafficking organizations, ATF said in a news release."

    ATF: Mexico seized 68,000 guns made in or imported to United States since 2006 - CBS News



    Why do you suppose the Mexican drug cartel prefers the AK variants with detachable magazines?
    That you even cited a news source that says "AK's with detachable mags" brings into question the validity of the report. What, there are AK's with permanently affixed mags? Also, AK's are not made in the US. They are a foreign weapon. Unless of course you're talking about a semi-automatic AK which is no better than a hunting rifle. It just looks meaner. Its like a lion with no claws. Looks mean, can't really do much when you get down to it. As far as the M4's with grenade launchers, they didn't say how many where found. It could be one. But I guess you'd have to talk to AG Holder about that.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    "The government said Thursday that 68,000 guns recovered by Mexican authorities in the past five years have been traced back to the United States."

    "Mexican President Felipe Calderon said the U.S. government has not done enough to stop the flow of assault weapons and other guns from the U.S. to Mexico."

    "Mexican law enforcement officials report that certain types of rifles such as AK variants with detachable magazines are being used more frequently by drug trafficking organizations, ATF said in a news release."

    ATF: Mexico seized 68,000 guns made in or imported to United States since 2006 - CBS News



    Why do you suppose the Mexican drug cartel prefers the AK variants with detachable magazines?
    the only guns capable of being traced to the United States are ones made here. Many of those are military weapons we have given the Mexican government and their paramilitary police forces. Those forces are highly corrupt

    millions of Soviet block guns are not traceable to the united states so we have no idea of the numbers of them

    BTW there are few if any AKs made in the USA

    what we have are what are called 18 USC 922 compliant weapons. Under prior presidential executive orders "foreign made" "assault weapons" cannot be imported into the USA. So foreign semi autos have several parts replaced with US made parts to comply with that idiotic law. Normally the stock, the pistol grip,the forearm, the hammer, the trigger,disconnector and the sear and sometimes the barrel
    most of the stuff you are talking about was imported to the USA

    but the cartels prefer fully auto versions and those are not coming from American gunshots but places like other Latin American countries including Chavez's arms factories (which include a recent Russian built AK factory)

    there are millions of real AKs available

    1) because the soviets replaced them with the AK 74 which fires a bullet similar to our M16-thus the old 762x39 rifles were dumped on the world market

    2) eastern bloc nations which became allied with NATO dumped soviet weapons when they rearmed

    3) the chinese are no longer using Soviet styled weapons but their own domestically designed rifles-theres another several million soviet pattern guns dumped on the world market

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the M2 was arguably the first modern assault rifle

    great little gun-Bought a commercial (junk) copy when I was a law student. Got a hand built one on like new receiver by Fulton Armory about 25 years ago and then several CMP guns. My son started shooting one at 8-its an easy weapon for kids and ladies

    I am always on the lookout for sales on 30 MI carbine-ammo-fortunately one of my dad's friends had a ton and when he moved into a retirement home he asked me to "dispose of all this ammo" which was fine with me since he had 2000 rounds that still worked
    Yeah, the M2 had full auto capabilites: the handguards were different as well. I like the thing. It's fast; real accurate at 50 yards: a great bush gun
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Shooting Enthusiast - Understanding 18 USC 922R

    this describes this idiocy

    I had a Egyptian made AK that was only legal if it had an American made mag (guess what-many mags don't have any identifying marks)

    I friend of mine is an AK expert and was in the Russian Naval infantry as an armorer. I gave it to him and he rebuilt it with a bunch of american parts

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    That you even cited a news source that says "AK's with detachable mags" brings into question the validity of the report.
    Or, they are differentiating AKs from rifles without detachable Mags, which is how most people would interpret it.

    Unless of course you're talking about a semi-automatic AK which is no better than a hunting rifle.
    Yes, that is what they are talking about. Why does the Drug Cartel prefer it to rifles without detachable mags? That was my question.


    These guns have bee illegally obtained from the US for the last 5 years, so we are not talking about only Fast and Furious guns here.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    I own a couple of assault rifles for fun. Even though I shoot them for a living, its still fun to go out in the front yard and crank a mag or two off. Plus, you can't beat it for shooting pests such as racoons and possums. On another note, I don't think I should be able to own a 100 round drum for either of them. Alright TurtleDude, lets hear it. I didn't continue our debate in the other thread about this.
    Meh, I wouldn't even want a 100 round drum. Too prone to failure.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by jet57 View Post
    Yeah, the M2 had full auto capabilites: the handguards were different as well. I like the thing. It's fast; real accurate at 50 yards: a great bush gun
    in some circles its considered an ideal thick woods deer rifle. I just like shooting them. its an ideal gun for my wife or my son. with 15 round magazines they are really reliable. 20 years ago a bunch of ones we gave ROK came back and were being sold for 150 bucks. I bought a couple and put a new stock on one. A boy I used to coach does WWII reenactments. I gave him one of the ROK cheapies since I had 5-6 really good ones. I figured the barrel was pretty worn but it turns out the ROK had just put a bunch of "new" Inland barrels on some and then warehoused them

    the damn thing shot under 1.5 inches at 50 yards. So he kept that one for shooting matches and used the one he bought for matches as his blank firing reenactment gun.

    YOu can still buy really good ones but the price has gone way up. Some places specialize in restoration or rebuilding them-Fulton Armory and James River are two of the best with MilTech another good source

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the only guns capable of being traced to the United States are ones made here. Many of those are military weapons we have given the Mexican government and their paramilitary police forces. Those forces are highly corrupt

    millions of Soviet block guns are not traceable to the united states so we have no idea of the numbers of them

    BTW there are few if any AKs made in the USA

    what we have are what are called 18 USC 922 compliant weapons. Under prior presidential executive orders "foreign made" "assault weapons" cannot be imported into the USA. So foreign semi autos have several parts replaced with US made parts to comply with that idiotic law. Normally the stock, the pistol grip,the forearm, the hammer, the trigger,disconnector and the sear and sometimes the barrel
    most of the stuff you are talking about was imported to the USA

    but the cartels prefer fully auto versions and those are not coming from American gunshots but places like other Latin American countries including Chavez's arms factories (which include a recent Russian built AK factory)

    there are millions of real AKs available

    1) because the soviets replaced them with the AK 74 which fires a bullet similar to our M16-thus the old 762x39 rifles were dumped on the world market

    2) eastern bloc nations which became allied with NATO dumped soviet weapons when they rearmed

    3) the chinese are no longer using Soviet styled weapons but their own domestically designed rifles-theres another several million soviet pattern guns dumped on the world market


    No where in there did you answer my question:

    Why do you suppose the Mexican drug cartel prefer rifles with detachable magazines?
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Or, they are differentiating AKs from rifles without detachable Mags, which is how most people would interpret it.



    Yes, that is what they are talking about. Why does the Drug Cartel prefer it to rifles without detachable mags? That was my question.


    These guns have bee illegally obtained from the US for the last 5 years, so we are not talking about only Fast and Furious guns here.
    they are probably confusing the SKS carbine which normally does not have a detachable magazine with the AKM/AK47/Type 56 weapons that normally come with a 30 round detachable magazine

    ignorant people often call an SKS an AK

    He is a picture of how one loads an SKS-with a stripper clip of ten rounds into the fixed magazine


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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    No where in there did you answer my question:

    Why do you suppose the Mexican drug cartel prefer rifles with detachable magazines?
    because that is what the current military issued weapons are and its easier to reload then the weapon I listed above

    also every fully automatic weapon currently available uses either a magazine (hand held) or a belt feed (usually tripod mounted)

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