View Poll Results: Would you own an assault Rifle? Why?

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  • No! Only crazies own assault rifles.

    15 11.11%
  • No, they are too expensive!

    7 5.19%
  • No, no need to.

    41 30.37%
  • Yes, for self defense

    44 32.59%
  • Yes, for recreation and sport

    52 38.52%
  • Yes, to perform my patriotic duty if the nation is invaded

    43 31.85%
  • Yes, because it's my constiutional right

    45 33.33%
  • Yes, because I'm one of the CRAZIES!!! hahahahaha

    15 11.11%
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Dude, you haven't supported anything you have claimed for almost 31K posts.....
    that is a baseless & pathetic lie. I joined the forum twelve months before you did, so are you claiming you backtracked & analyzed six months of my posting history??????????????

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Friends, family, the street, borrowed, stolen.....
    prove it.

    prove that most guns used in crimes were NOT part of a criminal gun-sale enterprise. this is your claim...so prove it.

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    prove it.

    prove that most guns used in crimes were NOT part of a criminal gun-sale enterprise. this is your claim...so prove it.
    you don't understand the concept of burden of proof

    you WANT TO RESTRICT OUR RIGHTS-the burden is ON you to prove that your proposed restrictions will do enough good to overcome the undeniable interference with our rights

    you have spewed thousands of posts and you have yet to post one bit of evidence supporting your schemes

    its pretty obvious you have no real knowledge in this area. You don't even own a gun yet

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you don't understand the concept of burden of proof...
    he made a claim.

    its his burden to prove it.

    the fact is, the great majority of gun used in crimes that were seized in NYC, were originally purchased OUT OF STATE.

    what does this tell us? this tells us that on average, guns used in crimes in NYC are being bought by assholes in Virginia, NC, SC, FL, and TX, and then brought up to NYC to be sold to murderers & rapists.

    this needs to stop!!!!

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    he made a claim.

    its his burden to prove it.

    the fact is, the great majority of gun used in crimes that were seized in NYC, were originally purchased OUT OF STATE.
    Uh how many laws were violated to merely get those guns there?

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    Then your points are not really valid. Restrictions on legal gun owners wouldn't have any appreciable effect on gun crimes in this country.
    "The Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence reminds us that since 1968, when Martin Luther King and Robert Kennedy were assassinated, over one million people have been killed with guns in the United States. On average, almost 100,000 people in the United States are shot or killed with a gun annually. Since guns are not ubiquitous in many other industrialized countries, far fewer people die by gunshot than in the United States. In fact, the U.S. firearm homicide rate is about 20 times higher than in 22 other populous high-income countries combined, despite similar non-lethal crime and violence rates. Unsurprisingly then, they claim that in recent years, among 23 populous, high-income countries, 80 percent of all firearm deaths occurred in the United States.

    Further, research they cite by Wiebe (2003) indicates that 94 percent of gun-related suicides would not occur had no guns been present. Since keeping a firearm at home increases the risk of homicide by a factor of three, it is not surprising that guns are more likely to raise the risk of injury than to confer protection. In fact, they claim that every year there are only about 200 legally justified self-defense homicides by private citizens.

    In short, there appears to be substantial evidence that removing guns saves lives.
    Interestingly, while the rates of assault with knives and guns in the United States are similar, there are five times as many deaths from guns. And many of these lethal guns can be obtained in the U.S. without a background check. Close to one-half of gun acquisitions in the U.S. occur on the secondary market, and sales between individuals do not require a background check.

    For instance, undercover sting operations found that 94 percent of licensed dealers at gun shows in Ohio, Tennessee, and Nevada completed sales to people who appeared to be criminals or straw purchasers, and 63 percent of private sellers at those gun shows sold guns to purchasers who stated they probably could not pass a background check. Furthermore, while lethal “assault weapons” (semi-automatic firearms) have no known civilian use benefits whatsoever, the ban on their use in the United States was lifted in 2004."
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Fallacy: Appeal to emotion.



    The shooter MADE bombs, his apartment was rigged. If he wanted to make one to take to the theater he would have. The 100 round mag jammed on him. Because bigger mags do that. Had he brought 20 10 round mags and just reloaded, more people would have died as the chance of a jam would have been less. You really shouldn't talk about the distorted views of others when you are putting forth non-factual information.



    I googled photos, looks like a lot of people. No doubt some extremists. But they are no more extremists to one side than you can find on the other side at an 'Occupy' event or any other numerous 'left wing' event.

    " The 100 round mag jammed on him. Because bigger mags do that. Had he brought 20 10 round mags and just reloaded, more people would have died as the chance of a jam would have been less."

    I love the insanity of your statement. So 100 round mags are defective, but I still want anyone to be able to buy one on the internet and it's a good thing he had one ? If they don't work why do you still want them to be sold? This "slippery slope" BS has gotten ridiculous.

    And I ask you the same question how many died from his homemade bombs? None at Columbine either. Guns are far more available and just as deadly.

    And why is this nutcases AR-15 so much less culpable that those "evil" weapons that killed Brian Terry?
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Uh how many laws were violated to merely get those guns there?
    um......criminals don't give a **** about laws.

    we already established this.

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by friday View Post
    Recently, A Democrat senator suggested that he has no idea why anyone would need to have an assault rifle. His ignorance is the premise of his decision to limit the 2nd amendment. To me the answer is pretty easy.

    I would own an assault reason for the exact same reason I would own a superfast sports car that is built to exceed legal speed limits. So that if the Chinese drilling off our coast where we are not allowed to ever decided to sneak soldiers and nukes into the gulf instead of oil rig workers and equipment and invaded Florida blitzkrieg style, I'd have a chance of getting out alive.

    Seriously though, would you own an assault rifle? And if so, why?
    I actually own 4. My dad gave me my first one when, I was about 16

    2 were semi-auto and converted to full-auto and 2 are *stock* full auto

    Why?...better yet, why not?

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    I will end the night noting the crap spewed by Catawba when it claims "no known benefits"

    they feel the same way about all guns. That is merely the opinion of a far left anti gun hack unsupported by any evidence

    of course Catawba laps that crap up without even subjecting it to any critical thought

    one of the benefits-to deal with people like that if they start trying to imposing their idiotic views on the rest of us.

    there was no known evidence that the clinton gun ban did anything positive

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