View Poll Results: Would you own an assault Rifle? Why?

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  • No! Only crazies own assault rifles.

    15 11.11%
  • No, they are too expensive!

    7 5.19%
  • No, no need to.

    41 30.37%
  • Yes, for self defense

    44 32.59%
  • Yes, for recreation and sport

    52 38.52%
  • Yes, to perform my patriotic duty if the nation is invaded

    43 31.85%
  • Yes, because it's my constiutional right

    45 33.33%
  • Yes, because I'm one of the CRAZIES!!! hahahahaha

    15 11.11%
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Why would you think that? Ownership of an "assault rifle" in the USA is hardly uncommon. I know many people who have one.
    most of the people I shoot with have semi auto military style rifles

    a few have the Class III tax stamp assault rifles

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    The OP really needs to define what he is asking in terms of 'assault rifle'. I do not consider that definition to be a valid definition of any firearm. And those that do use it throw it all over the place, from full automatics to 'scary' looking guns.
    Thank you for proving my previous claim that the right wants to steer these discussion to technical matters. You could not serve me better if I wrote your posts for you.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you for proving my previous claim that the right wants to steer these discussion to technical matters. You could not serve me better if I wrote your posts for you.
    What is your purpose on this thread? its a poll about a weapon that is being hotly discussed in the news

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    The OP really needs to define what he is asking in terms of 'assault rifle'. I do not consider that definition to be a valid definition of any firearm. And those that do use it throw it all over the place, from full automatics to 'scary' looking guns.

    yeah, very true. The term is misleading.

    Many people who don't know much about weapons think it refers to "machine guns" or full auto rifles. That wasn't remotely what the so-called AWB was about.

    My "assault rifle" is a military rifle but without the selector switch... it is strictly semi-auto. I have no particular interest in full-auto, other than as playtime-lets-waste-ammo at the range.

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Thank you for proving my previous claim that the right wants to steer these discussion to technical matters. You could not serve me better if I wrote your posts for you.

    Or, another way of putting it is: that since so many anti's misuse and misconstrue these terms, either for their own benefit or out of sheer ignorance, we like to make sure the discussion is specific enough that everyone knows EXACTLY what we're talking about.


    It is called "clear communication".

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    yeah, very true. The term is misleading.

    Many people who don't know much about weapons think it refers to "machine guns" or full auto rifles. That wasn't remotely what the so-called AWB was about.

    My "assault rifle" is a military rifle but without the selector switch... it is strictly semi-auto. I have no particular interest in full-auto, other than as playtime-lets-waste-ammo at the range.
    In the late 1980's Josh Sugarmann of the obscure Violence POlicy Center (a place he went to after being fired for being too honest [extreme] by Sarah brady) realized that the campaign against saturday night specials was being lost

    so he wanted another weapon to demonize. after perhaps watching RAMBO one too many times, this turd Sugarmann, sent out a paper to left leaning media types telling them to demonize semi auto "assault weapons" by deliberately confusing them with machine guns that sometimes look similar.

    after that paper went out, the VPC was "blessed" by Patrick Purdy's murder spree in Stockton Kalifornia using a Type 56 Chinese made semi auto rifle

    after the VPC paper went out the use of the term SEMI AUTO in the MSM went from a couple mentions for all of the 7 years before the paper to HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF TIMES. we even had crap like "the suspect was armed with a semi automatic revolver" or a semi automatic pump shotgun

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    For one thing, the M-4 is an awesome looking gun,

    secondly, shooting is fun.

    thirdly, toys are fun and adult toys are more fun.

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    For one thing, the M-4 is an awesome looking gun,

    secondly, shooting is fun.

    thirdly, toys are fun and adult toys are more fun.
    tell us again why you want to limit the magazine capacity of these firearms

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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Or, another way of putting it is: that since so many anti's misuse and misconstrue these terms, either for their own benefit or out of sheer ignorance, we like to make sure the discussion is specific enough that everyone knows EXACTLY what we're talking about.


    It is called "clear communication".
    100% correct. His question makes me believe that some actually just want to blur that definition further... or really have no idea what the answer is and don't want to look foolish trying to answer.
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    Re: Why would you own an assault rifle?

    How about the Wiki definition as a standard. It seems to be pretty accurate:

    It must be an individual weapon with provision to fire from the shoulder (i.e. a buttstock);
    It must be capable of selective fire;
    It must have an intermediate-power cartridge: more power than a pistol but less than a standard rifle or battle rifle;
    Its ammunition must be supplied from a detachable magazine rather than a feed-belt.
    And it should at least have a firing range of 300 meters (1000 feet)

    Rifles that meet most of these criteria, but not all, are technically not assault rifles despite frequently being considered as such. For example, semi-automatic-only rifles like the AR-15 (which the M16 rifle is based on) that share designs with assault rifles are not assault rifles, as they are not capable of switching to automatic fire and thus are not selective fire capable. Belt-fed weapons or rifles with fixed magazines are likewise not assault rifles because they do not have detachable box magazines.

    The term "assault rifle" is often more loosely used for commercial or political reasons to include other types of arms, particularly arms that fall under a strict definition of the battle rifle, or semi-automatic variant of military rifles such as AR-15s.
    The only rifle I own is a Ruger 10/22, and it has a 10 round clip, but I certainly don't consider it an assault rifle, unless I intend to assault rabbits.
    I would love to have an AK 47, but other than those two, I don't have any rifle lust.
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