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Why would you own an assault rifle?

Would you own an assault Rifle? Why?

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Goshin said:
You can go to a given event, and choose to focus on the handful of loonies there... and publish only those pictures that support your desire to portray the whole schmeer as a gathering of loonies, and that is what this article was, a smear job using only those pics that supported the agenda: portraying Knob Creek as a gathering of only racists.

Some of us know better.
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Have you ever been there?
 
Lets get back to taking apart the idiotic premise that people who don't like guns should be able to restrict ownership based on "need"
 
Goshin said:
This is news to me. I know people that go and they are NOT any sort of racists... in talking about the event none of them ever mentioned to me that there were neo-nazi's at the event. Now possibly they were there IN SMALL NUMBERS and my friends chose to completely ignore them and refuse to acknowlege them.

YOU implied the whole thing was a KKK event... which is patently false.
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I did not imply anything of the sort...I did however claim the Klan/Neo crowd is welcomed, and that the event changes the range dramatically.
 
tecoyah said:
I see...so you know some people, I live here....and you are more informed about my backyard than I am.

"I spent Saturday at the bi-annual Knob Creek Machine Gun Shoot, right outside of Louisville, Ky. Gun enthusiasts of all stripes were there — from the National Rifle Association and sportsmen to militia members to white supremacists and Obama birthers. Here’s a collection of choice photos from the show"

Scenes From the Real America | The Washington Independent

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During this event...Knob Creek is no longer just a Shooting Range. It is well established fact in Bulitt County/Louisville. In this case....I think I might be somewhat more informed than you are.
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Why is that nutsack wearing a US Army uniform with a nazi officers hat? Doesn't even look old enough to buy a pack of smokes, let alone be a higher officer... if he can figure out whether he's supposed to be a Major, or a LT Colonel. This has nothing to do with any arguments here, I'm just irritated by that picture. Stupid **** needs to enlist before he can wear my Uniform.
 
TurtleDude said:
Isn't the guy wearing a German hat also have a USA flag on his sleeve

comparing Obama to Hitler is an insult of Obama-not a praise for Nazis
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That "GUY", is a kid, and he has the flag on his fatigues....whats the point?
 
Lokiate said:
Why is that nutsack wearing a US Army uniform with a nazi officers hat? Doesn't even look old enough to buy a pack of smokes, let alone be a higher officer... if he can figure out whether he's supposed to be a Major, or a LT Colonel. This has nothing to do with any arguments here, I'm just irritated by that picture. Stupid **** needs to enlist before he can wear my Uniform.
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I am still trying to figure out how comparing Obama to Hitler suggests someone is a Neo Nazi rather than someone who cannot stand Obama (which is a common sentiment from most gun owners I know)
 
tecoyah said:
I did not imply anything of the sort...I did however claim the Klan/Neo crowd is welcomed, and that the event changes the range dramatically.
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Nice backtrack, but here are your exact words...


tecoyah said:
I live about two miles away from Knob Creek,.... Generally, the police avoid this area for that week, as it is pretty much a KKK rally.
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"it is pretty much a KKK rally" implies strongly that the whole event is dominated by the Klan... so why were there no pics of white men in bedsheets??
 
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TurtleDude said:
I am still trying to figure out how comparing Obama to Hitler suggests someone is a Neo Nazi rather than someone who cannot stand Obama (which is a common sentiment from most gun owners I know)
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I'm trying to figure out when people are going to stop using Nazi Germany as an example of anything in the US. It's a stupid extreme, and if someone wears nazi regalia, they bring accusations of being a neo-nazi upon themselves.
 
Lokiate said:
I'm trying to figure out when people are going to stop using Nazi Germany as an example of anything in the US. It's a stupid extreme, and if someone wears nazi regalia, they bring accusations of being a neo-nazi upon themselves.
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true enough-why one would want to emulate one of the greatest examples of historical LOSERS is beyond me

however, comparing Obama to Hitler does not raise ANY implications that the person insulting Obama is a neo-nazi or a fan of hitler

rather it suggests they find Hitler to be the scum of the earth and that is why they lambaste Obama with the comparison


So the claim that this poster comparing the two is evidence of some sort of Klanish or Nazi mentality is beyond stupid-it was an anti nazi as it was anti Obama
 
Catawba said:
No, they are authorized police officers and get access to weapons that civilians do not.
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Can you please tell us which weapons that police are allowed to have that a non-LEO civilian cannot legally possess?
 
tecoyah said:
I did not imply anything of the sort...I did however claim the Klan/Neo crowd is welcomed, and that the event changes the range dramatically.
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That is an outright lie. You said: "Generally, the police avoid this area for that week, as it is pretty much a KKK rally."

So first you like that it is a KKK rally, then you lie saying you never said that.
 
Arbo said:
That is an outright lie. You said: "Generally, the police avoid this area for that week, as it is pretty much a KKK rally."

So first you like that it is a KKK rally, then you lie saying you never said that.
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his posts have no credibility on this subject. they are filled with idiotic stereotyping, inaccurate reporting and he thinks constitutional rights are based on what he thinks others need.
 
Thunder said:
sure they are.
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why is a glock 17 useful for somewhat trained police officers to use for self defense in NYC but not for highly trained Non LEO civilians in the same city Thunder?
 
Thunder said:
what's that got to do with my post?
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its got a lot to do with this topic

if civilian cops can have certain weapons for self defense other civilians ought to be able to have them too since the governmental unit above both civilian cops and non LEO civilians have made an official pronouncement that the weapons it gives cops are suitable for self defense
 
TurtleDude said:
...if civilian cops can have certain weapons for self defense other civilians ought to be able to have them too....
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cops aren't civilians.

and no, there are some weapons that cops should be able to have that civilians should not be able to have.
 
Thunder said:
cops aren't civilians.

and no, there are some weapons that cops should be able to have that civilians should not be able to have.
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still sticking with that idiocy? OKIE DOKIE

but tell me how does the NATURE and USE of the weapon change?

how does a weapon go from being the ideal self defense weapon in a civilian jurisdiction and environment to being completely unsuitable for others to use in that same environment
 
TurtleDude said:
still sticking with that idiocy? OKIE DOKIE

but tell me how does the NATURE and USE of the weapon change?

how does a weapon go from being the ideal self defense weapon in a civilian jurisdiction and environment to being completely unsuitable for others to use in that same environment
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civilians also can't buy flashbangs. Those are for police & military use only.
 
Thunder said:
civilians also can't buy flashbangs. Those are for police & military use only.
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Everytime you get nailed with an idiotic premise and I point out the idiocy you engage in diversions

cops are not given any additional latitude to shoot people than you are I am

so given that how does a Glock 17 go from being the ideal self defense weapon to something that has NO LEGITIMATE "civilian use" in some cities?

cops are under the same courts as us
cops are subject to the same laws as us
cops cannot shoot anyone other than for the same justifications as the rest of us
cops are tried in civilian courts of law
suits against cops are in civilian courts of law
cops are under the same chain of command as other civilian employees of the city or state they work for
cops are under the same retirement and pension system as other employees of that city or state

so quit trying to evade the point about the government view of the weapon by trying to spew idiocy that cops aren't civilians
 
TurtleDude said:
...cops are under the same courts as us
cops are subject to the same laws as us
cops cannot shoot anyone other than for the same justifications as the rest of us
cops are tried in civilian courts of law
suits against cops are in civilian courts of law
cops are under the same chain of command as other civilian employees of the city or state they work for
cops are under the same retirement and pension system as other employees of that city or state

so quit trying to evade the point about the government view of the weapon by trying to spew idiocy that cops aren't civilians
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cops & military can carry & use flashbangs.

civilians cannot.
 
TurtleDude said:
that is based on the silly presumption that infringing on the rights of law abiding citizens will decrease crime

sadly for you there is no empirical evidence supporting that faith based belief and without it freedom is the default position

they are important to me because in some situations they are the proper solution to a problem
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So if a few dozen more get shot by a madman because he was able to buy a weapon with that capability it's OK because you want a "proper solution" to some supposed problem?
Is that what you would tell the family members of the deceased? That the murderer had a 100 shot magazine because you think you might need it someday and that's why they have the right to sell it to a maniac killer?
The Aurora shooter wanted bombs too but couldn't get them, can you imagine if grenades were also something you felt were a "proper solution"? How many people must die to satisfy your ego?
 
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