View Poll Results: What is America's greatest sin?

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  • The war for independence

    1 1.02%
  • Slavery

    32 32.65%
  • Indians / native Americans

    35 35.71%
  • Hiroshima, Nagasaki bombing

    3 3.06%
  • The war in Vietnam

    2 2.04%
  • The FED

    7 7.14%
  • The Cold war

    0 0%
  • The Civil war

    0 0%
  • Other

    15 15.31%
  • I can't tell

    3 3.06%
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Thread: America's greatest sin [W:264]

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    re: America's greatest sin [W:264]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Exactly. How many US Servicemen and women would be home right now if we'd simply carpet-nuked Afghanistan and Iraq?
    Wouldn't be much of a home after someone nuked us in retaliation, and the human race died off due to a nuclear winter.
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    re: America's greatest sin [W:264]

    Quote Originally Posted by Canell View Post
    Thoughts anyone?
    Well, I voted for American Indians. But I rather think it's a toss-up between slavery and the American Indians -- which, one could say, are very closely related. It's even hard for me to believe that American Indians live the way they live. I guess it's their choice....?

    Slavery, on the other hand, forced 12 million blacks into servitude. A forced immigration, if you will. Immigrants are strong willed people. Those who came/come here willingly leave their families behind, abandon most, if not all, of their property, and come here seeking a better future. IMO, they are the saving grace of the United States of America. We ought to allow more of them. Slaves were brought here against their will, devastating their families, destroying their families, and breaking their spirits.

    Then, once we freed them, we had not much for them to do. They were uneducated...suddenly thrown out to fend for themselves...and, to this day, are continuously being destroyed by poor educational opportunities, unsafe neighborhoods and the carrot of entitlement continually dangled in front of their eyes. We have effectively destroyed generations of black families...and continue to do so to this very day.
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    re: America's greatest sin [W:264]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    National Survival is a negligee the devil puts on before we lie down with him.
    Excellent post! If that last expression is of your own invention, I applaud your literary talent.
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    re: America's greatest sin [W:264]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Wouldn't be much of a home after someone nuked us in retaliation, and the human race died off due to a nuclear winter.
    Okay, I've thought about this point I made a bit, and it got me wondering. Would it be better to use a nuclear bomb to save your country, or not use it, and sacrifice your country, knowing that there is a high likely-hood of retaliation attacks that could destroy our planet?

    That question probably deserves it's own thread, but I'm thinking the latter would be the obvious, yet difficult choice to make.
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    re: America's greatest sin [W:264]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Okay, I've thought about this point I made a bit, and it got me wondering. Would it be better to use a nuclear bomb to save your country, or not use it, and sacrifice your country, knowing that there is a high likely-hood of retaliation attacks that could destroy our planet?

    That question probably deserves it's own thread, but I'm thinking the latter would be the obvious, yet difficult choice to make.
    If you're talking about a land invasion of the US then the answer is obvious - we use the nukes. If the other side wants to nuke it's own troops (in our country), or the territory it seems to want (our country), then so be it. For them that possibility makes the whole thing kind of pointless, though, doesn't it?
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    re: America's greatest sin [W:264]

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    I have NOOOO idea, I drank a lot back when I carried the Mattel Toy for Gawd and Country so I could have heard it while impaired.

    But it does zing now don't it....

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    re: America's greatest sin [W:264]

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Anda-
    I have NOOOO idea, I drank a lot back when I carried the Mattel Toy for Gawd and Country so I could have heard it while impaired.

    But it does zing now don't it....
    Certainly does. May I quote you (and it) in my sig line?
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    re: America's greatest sin [W:264]

    Quote Originally Posted by Your Star View Post
    Okay, I've thought about this point I made a bit, and it got me wondering. Would it be better to use a nuclear bomb to save your country, or not use it, and sacrifice your country, knowing that there is a high likely-hood of retaliation attacks that could destroy our planet?

    That question probably deserves it's own thread, but I'm thinking the latter would be the obvious, yet difficult choice to make.
    Countries come and go, rise and fall and the World keeps turning. The destruction of life on Earth in order to ensure that your country is the last one standing when the nuclear winter falls takes insanity to apocalyptic levels.

    I'm sure that most current superpowers would opt for the former of your options however.
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    America's greatest sin is hypocrisy. We say we believe in freedom and tolerance but we are consistently one of the last nations of our Western tradition to conform our own actions to those ideals.
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    re: America's greatest sin [W:264]

    Quote Originally Posted by Tigger View Post
    Sorry, but that's not likely to happen. At least not outside of a very small segment of the population. Too much chance of getting burned when you get involved with people you haven't vetted ahead of time or who don't at least have others you know and trust to speak for them.

    I wasn't asking to spend the night at your house or borrow your car; I was just expressing a desire that our online interactions be of a cordially friendly nature. While I disagree with you on a number of things, I have always had a certain admiration for the person who holds unpopular views with open frankness, and determinedly sticks to his guns despite all criticism.

    However, biting the hand extended in friendship is the action of a vicious dog that lacks the capacity to recognize the sincerity of the gesture, and unworthy of a man who wishes to portray himself as honorable and principled.

    Indeed, your assertion that you'd rather die than live under the rule "of the likes of me" was a surprising bit of viciously uncalled for reaction, much like that dog whose been kicked too much to recognize a friendly gesture. It was irrational in that I doubt you could even name ten policy positions that "The Goshin Regime" would impose and get more than two or three correct. You bemoan that we don't impose universal morality on all by force, then threaten suicide if any morality other than your own were imposed on you, yet I don't see you killing yourself under the current governmental system... and still you speak as if you're certain that The Goshin Regime would be even worse, when you could hardly define what it WOULD be.

    This was very uncivilized behavior from someone who likes to portray himself as a gentleman of the old school, and rather surprising in that I certainly did not think that we were enemies. Was I mistaken? Do you actually despise me that much?

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