Prove US citizenship before buying a gun?

[Luna Tick]

Here's one reason that might justify a background check. It's pretty disgusting that an al Quaida terrorist or the member of a Mexican drug cartel might come to the United States to buy guns. They're foreigners and therefore have no 2nd Amendment rights. Plus, many of them are in the country illegally. The 2nd Amendment affords citizens the right to bear arms, not foreigners who have invaded for nefarious purposes. So should we make sure to check for citizenship before allowing the sale of a gun? And include that check at gun shows?

 

[Daktoria]

I'm not sure gun-control supporters can even take your issue seriously. They want drama, so they want things to get out of control.

Are you asking this question so you can get teased?

 

[Luna Tick]

I'm not sure gun-control supporters can even take your issue seriously. They want drama, so they want things to get out of control.

Are you asking this question so you can get teased?

No, I get picked on enough. My obnoxious poll is on another board.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Here's one reason that might justify a background check. It's pretty disgusting that an al Quaida terrorist or the member of a Mexican drug cartel might come to the United States to buy guns. They're foreigners and therefore have no 2nd Amendment rights. Plus, many of them are in the country illegally. The 2nd Amendment affords citizens the right to bear arms, not foreigners who have invaded for nefarious purposes. So should we make sure to check for citizenship before allowing the sale of a gun? And include that check at gun shows?

The instant background check already does this.

(proof)
I'm a former firearm sales person at the retail level and actually had a foreign person attempt to purchase a firearm, which was summarily denied.

 

[TurtleDude]

prior to 9-11 as long as you had legal residence in a state you could buy a gun-green card or a visa. I sold a gun to a Turkish Colonel stationed at WPAFB who was here as a NATO assigned officer. He had a valid Ohio DL, and orders signed by the General of the USAF authorizing him to carry weapons on the base.

He was as legal as they come

 

[Luna Tick]

The instant background check already does this.

Not at gun shows.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Not at gun shows.

Private sales require ID.
There are rules to even those and are not completely unregulated, as is commonly believed.

 

[TurtleDude]

Not at gun shows.

wrong-licensed dealers must conduct background checks no matter where they operate

private citizens NO (based on law)--some gun shows require private sellers to transfer their sales through a dealer though

that is not federally required

 

[TurtleDude]

Private sales require ID.
There are rules to even those and are not completely unregulated, as is commonly believed.

the common practice at the shows I go to is to require a CCW permit-then you are safe. One of the big promoters in the Ohio valley-Bill Goodman's shows, now require background checks by everyone

of course he cannot do much about sales in the parking lots

 

[Luna Tick]

Private sales require ID.
There are rules to even those and are not completely unregulated, as is commonly believed.

Really? The press has made it sound very wild west like, as if a turbin-wearing lunatic with a heavy accent can walk into a gun show, cash in hand, and walk out with dozens of AR-15s.

 

[TurtleDude]

Really? The press has made it sound very wild west like, as if a turbin-wearing lunatic with a heavy accent can walk into a gun show, cash in hand, and walk out with dozens of AR-15s.

you have been to lots of gun shows?

I didn't' think so

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

Really? The press has made it sound very wild west like, as if a turbin-wearing lunatic with a heavy accent can walk into a gun show, cash in hand, and walk out with dozens of AR-15s.

Private sales still require documentation and proof of residency, while also requiring that private individuals do not sell firearms to people they know are felons or criminals at large.

 

[Luna Tick]

you have been to lots of gun shows?

I didn't' think so

No, but I'm thinking of going to my first one. I'm planning on wearing a burkah that says, "ALLAH KILL JIHAD!" in big letters and attempting to buy AR-15s with Pakistani cash.

 

[Harry Guerrilla]

No, but I'm thinking of going to my first one. I'm planning on wearing a burkah that says, "ALLAH KILL JIHAD!" in big letters and attempting to buy AR-15s with Pakistani cash.

They likely won't sell you anything and may even report you to the local authorities and the BATFE.

 

[Utility Man]

Seller: "The good thing is, though, if you don't like it, you can just sell it later and its not in you name. Like when you buy a new one, you have to worry about where it is going to end up."

 

[Utility Man]

Buyer: "That's good about the background check because I probably couldn't pass one"

Seller: "I don't care.....because I wouldn't pass either, bud"

 

[Thunder]

Private sales require ID.
There are rules to even those and are not completely unregulated, as is commonly believed.

really? interesting.

please list other requirements of private gun-sales.

thanks.

 

[earthworm]

What we need is an amendment protecting us from nut-cases.......if we are going to be amendment crazy.....but this was not a problem when the Constitution was designed many centuries ago...
News flash, now its is........

 

[Thunder]

requiring proof of citizenship or permanent residency to buy a gun, should go without saying.

I can't believe some folks actually oppose such common-sense rules.

 

[Red_Dave]

Buyer: "That's good about the background check because I probably couldn't pass one"

Seller: "I don't care.....because I wouldn't pass either, bud"

Surely more regulation will........ no wait.

 

[TurtleDude]

Buyer: "That's good about the background check because I probably couldn't pass one"

Seller: "I don't care.....because I wouldn't pass either, bud"

its funny bloomberg is not in prison though his "investigators" conspired to violate gun laws

 

[TurtleDude]

requiring proof of citizenship or permanent residency to buy a gun, should go without saying.

I can't believe some folks actually oppose such common-sense rules.

what we oppose are your idiotic beliefs such laws can be imposed on private citizens

btw if you do sell to someone who does not live in your state you are in violation of the law

 

[00timh]

Really? The press has made it sound very wild west like, as if a turbin-wearing lunatic with a heavy accent can walk into a gun show, cash in hand, and walk out with dozens of AR-15s.

Of course they do. Yeah, illegals who possess firearms... not too much of a stretch to conceive of the idea that they may have obtained them illegally... Or for so many other criminals for that matter. Or maybe our government just them guns....

I always find it amusing when some people complain about having to show id when it comes to legals/illegals. a U.S. citizen must prove their status when doing just about anything. cashing a check, driving a car, buying a travel ticket anywhere, checking into a hotel room.... I have no problem with people showing proof of identity to purchase firearms, since U.S. citizens have to do so as part of their daily lives. That non law abiding citizens have guns, pretty damn stupid to think they acquired them legally....

 

[Thunder]

its funny bloomberg is not in prison though his "investigators" conspired to violate gun laws

write a letter to the respective Governors to request an indictment.

 

[Thunder]

what we oppose are your idiotic beliefs such laws can be imposed on private citizens...

providing proof of citizenship or Permanent Residency, is idiotic?