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    Re: Prove US citizenship before buying a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    from New haven?
    absolutely.

    New Haven > Danbury > Brewster > North on the Taconic up to Albany.

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    Re: Prove US citizenship before buying a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    absolutely.

    New Haven > Danbury > Brewster > North on the Taconic up to Albany.
    I wasn't driving-coach was. he said it would cost us many extra hours

    fortunately that idiotic law was overruled federally

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    Re: Prove US citizenship before buying a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you cannot legally buy a gun anyplace now because you are not living at the address on your license
    So I've got to get a stupid Idaho license and one of those plates that says, "Famous potatoes," which is by far the dumbest plate slogan in the country? Or could I just get an Idaho state ID (non drivers license) and keep my Nebraska license since I plan to return?

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    Re: Prove US citizenship before buying a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    So I've got to get a stupid Idaho license and one of those plates that says, "Famous potatoes," which is by far the dumbest plate slogan in the country? Or could I just get an Idaho state ID (non drivers license) and keep my Nebraska license since I plan to return?
    you need some official document from the government showing residence.

    In Ohio I see people try to buy a gun all the time with a DL that lists a former address-so they have to bring say an IRS refund check, a Jury Summons etc that shows their new address. A gun shop I used to represent was across the street from the BMV-Ohio License bureau. It was convenient and the hours of the BMV was on the shop wall of the gun shop

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    Re: Prove US citizenship before buying a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    you need some official document from the government showing residence.

    In Ohio I see people try to buy a gun all the time with a DL that lists a former address-so they have to bring say an IRS refund check, a Jury Summons etc that shows their new address. A gun shop I used to represent was across the street from the BMV-Ohio License bureau. It was convenient and the hours of the BMV was on the shop wall of the gun shop
    my driver's license and my permit application license have different addresses.

    ....but the DL address is my folk's place, where I am still registered as a tenant and still have keys.

    I guess I have two residenses.

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    Re: Prove US citizenship before buying a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    my driver's license and my permit application license have different addresses.

    ....but the DL address is my folk's place, where I am still registered as a tenant and still have keys.

    I guess I have two residenses.
    I wouldn't know about NY-here in ohio as is true in most states we do not need permits to merely own guns

    sorry you do-that is disgusting

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    Re: Prove US citizenship before buying a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I wouldn't know about NY-here in ohio as is true in most states we do not need permits to merely own guns

    sorry you do-that is disgusting
    the permit should be free or close to it, and the process should be quicker.

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    Re: Prove US citizenship before buying a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    the permit should be free or close to it, and the process should be quicker.
    there should be no permit-its a waste of time that was originally designed by the rich who ran the city to keep "undesirables" from having guns even if there was no sound reason to deny them a permit. It was all about power.

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    Re: Prove US citizenship before buying a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    so illegal immigrants should be able to buy a gun in the USA?

    it should be a crime to refuse to sell a gun to an illegal immigrant?
    Ah, but that wasnít what the OP asked. We need to recognize that every year most of the non-citizens that immigrate to the US do so legally, and they should be entitled to the same 2nd amendment rights that citizens are. Assuming we are going to follow the Constitution.

    As for illegal immigrants? That is more complicated for me. I wouldnít actively protest a bill that banned them from buying guns, but I am torn on it morally. For one, I only think violent criminals and people who are mentally unstable should lose their right to bear arms. I donít think just any crime should result in loss of that right. If you went to jail for writing bad checks then upon getting out of jail and perhaps upon completion of your probation, you should be able to own a gun again. If you used a gun in the committing of a crime then you should lose the right to have a gun, possibly for the rest of your life.

    Illegal immigration isnít a violent crime. I personally donít even think it is an immoral one. On the other hand, they also havenít served their sentence for committing the crime. While a check bouncer may not be a violent criminal, I also donít think he should be able to buy a gun while there is a warrant for his arrest for committing that non-violent crime. Illegal immigrants donít tend to have warrants out for their arrest because, well, the authorities arenít aware who they are yet. But that is a technicality. If I am going to be true to the spirit of my stance, then I would have to say it is just to forbid illegal immigrants from buying guns, at least until they become legal and pay whatever penalty for their previous transgression that the law prescribes.

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    Re: Prove US citizenship before buying a gun?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    Here's one reason that might justify a background check. It's pretty disgusting that an al Quaida terrorist or the member of a Mexican drug cartel might come to the United States to buy guns.
    They don't have to come here to get guns when Reagan, Bush, and the BATFE make house calls.

    They're foreigners and therefore have no 2nd Amendment rights. Plus, many of them are in the country illegally. The 2nd Amendment affords citizens the right to bear arms, not foreigners who have invaded for nefarious purposes. So should we make sure to check for citizenship before allowing the sale of a gun? And include that check at gun shows?
    Non-citizens are already barred from legally purchasing firearms in the US.
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