View Poll Results: Do you support Luna's gun control compromise?

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    "Domestic violence" is just a catch all "crime" to try and ban guns that way.

    if you tell your ex bitch (or so to be ex) to **** off, your "guilty" of "domestic violence" ...........

    the right to keep and bare arms shale not be infringed...........and banning auto weapons is infringment.

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    most Americans understand that the Right to Bear Arms, is not absolute.

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    they can appeal to get these restrictions removed. They have due process.
    Through a pardon. The BATFE has expressed that it will not reinstate gun ownership rights, which is backed by the Supreme Court ruling of the United States v Thomas Lamar Bean.
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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    people ignorant about weapons tend to assume full auto is more lethal than semi auto

    it depends on the circumstances and generally is not true

    but when someone's main source of education is watching Rambo or Commando they tend to have silly ideas
    The truth is the military uses semiautomatic far more than automatic in combat. Automatic is available to them as an option, if they get into a "spray and pray" situation, but most of the time they're more effective if they're in semi and are selective about their targets.

    I think the myths come about from Hollywood movies. Automatic gunfire is dramatic for the big screen.
    Last edited by Luna Tick; 07-25-12 at 11:13 PM.

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Through a pardon. The BATFE has expressed that it will not reinstate gun ownership rights, which is backed by the Supreme Court ruling of the United States v Thomas Lamar Bean.
    that is incorrect.

    felons appeal to get back their firearm rights all the time, and often win them back. thousands have done so.
    Last edited by Thunder; 07-25-12 at 11:11 PM.

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    that is incorrect.

    felons appeal to get back their firearm rights all the time, and often win them back.
    Uh that is very rare. a presidential pardon works

    in the case of a state felony you have to have it expunged or have it wiped away

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Uh that is very rare. a presidential pardon works

    in the case of a state felony you have to have it expunged or have it wiped away
    rare?

    3,300 since 1995 in just Washington State....is rare?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/us...pagewanted=all

    oh...and around 13% of those folks...went on to commit new crimes.

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    rare?

    3,300 since 1995 in just Washington State....is rare?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/11/14/us...pagewanted=all

    oh...and around 13% of those folks...went on to commit new crimes.
    Interesting-certainly not the case here where I live

    I litigated an expungement all the way to the ohio supreme court. the OSC admitted that under the old law my client should have had an expungement but they decided to overrule the Court of Appeals that had sustained our appeal and made it much harder

    I cannot really get into it but it had nothing to do with weapons but rather a job but i know it was tough in ohio

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    that is incorrect.

    felons appeal to get back their firearm rights all the time, and often win them back. thousands have done so.
    I should note that if you had a federal felony you are basically screwed. You are clearly correct about some states though

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    that is incorrect.

    felons appeal to get back their firearm rights all the time, and often win them back. thousands have done so.
    The only way a felon can have their Second Amendment right restored is if they receive a pardon, and have their criminal record expunged.
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