View Poll Results: Do you support Luna's gun control compromise?

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Several, from vandalism to theft. What does that have to do with anything?
    how does vandalism & theft ALWAYS infringe upon someone elses' rights?

    it doesn't.

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    sorry, but I do not share your trust & faith in convicted felons.

    convicted felons cannot be trusted with guns, until our legal system deems them to be trustworthy.
    nice deflection but not true and irrelevant, im still waiting for any proof you have to back up your claim, oh thats right currently you have NONE LMAO
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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    how does vandalism & theft ALWAYS infringe upon someone elses' rights?

    it doesn't.
    WTF are you talking about? You asked what crimes can be taken against property, I told you. This has nothing to do with the topic on hand. Vandalism and theft does always infringe upon one's rights if the act is against another's property.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    ...Vandalism and theft does always infringe upon one's rights if the act is against another's property.
    and what if the property is owned by the public..or a company?

    than no individual's rights are violated.

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    and what if the property is owned by the public..or a company?

    than no individual's rights are violated.
    And? Do you have a point? Having a gun doesn't automatically infringe upon one's rights either. Neither does driving. But driving is the number one cause of death in my age group. Not guns. Aggregation you can't trust the public to drive well and aware, so by your logic we can use government force to strip them of their ability to drive.

    I fear your zeal to deflect has caused you to stop making any amount of sense.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    ...Having a gun doesn't automatically infringe upon one's rights either.....
    yes, we all understand this.

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    yes, we all understand this.
    So...you had no point. Thanks.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    So...you had no point. Thanks.
    i responded to your post. that was my point.

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    Actually it is 270 million guns, 99.99%+ of which are never used in a crime.



    The problems I'd have lay in two things:

    Defining "mentally unstable" and how you determine who is and is not.... this could easily be subject to abuse.

    Second, the domestic violence issue.... I know, as an ex-cop, there's a lot of men convicted of CDV who were actually DEFENDING themselves against a woman who initiated the violence, and I have some issues with a universal and permanent loss of gun rights from same in all cases.


    Also, I'd rather have nationwide universal concealed-carry, than repeal of the machine-gun act.
    the machine gun ban is useful in the sense that it proves that the democrat party and the gun control scum are not really motivated by crime control because there has been only one documented case of a legally owned machine gun being used in a crime

    obviously that ban was not motivated by a desire to stop crime

    but the Hughes Amendment should be stricken in the next 10 years based on the language of HELLER

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    i responded to your post. that was my point.
    ....yeah. Keep telling yourself that and maybe you'll believe it.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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