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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    Not at all a good argument.
    Comparing us to some banana republic is insulting..
    But do compare us to most any European nation....or Singapore or Japan or New Zealand....more sense...a fairer point...
    In fact I can't because US has a natural higher crime rate. For instance take a look in the 70s, and the gap between US and Europe was even larger. Back then there was less guns per capita. It is because US has different demographics. In Europe, 95% of the population is white, while in the US 70% of the population is white. In the white states of America the murder rate is not that high.

    Of course comparing against Venezuela is wrong too, but it proves my point that there are other more important factors than gun legislation.

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Camlon View Post
    In fact I can't because US has a natural higher crime rate. For instance take a look in the 70s, and the gap between US and Europe was even larger. Back then there was less guns per capita. It is because US has different demographics. In Europe, 95% of the population is white, while in the US 70% of the population is white. In the white states of America the murder rate is not that high.

    Of course comparing against Venezuela is wrong too, but it proves my point that there are other more important factors than gun legislation.

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    North Dakota: 1.5
    South Dakota: 2.8
    Maine: 1.8
    New Hampshire: 1.0
    by 1998, white gun violence in both the UK and continental Europe had surpassed the rate of white gun violence in the USA

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    how about this for a compromise:

    end background checks for rifles/shotguns.......but require background checks, 10-round limit for magazines, and limit purchases to one per month, for ALL handgun purchases.
    Seems more like a silly plan then a compromise.

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    You needed more choices, my choice would be NO, because no means no. I will make a compromise with anti-gun advocates, don't try to take mine away and I won't use mine on you.
    This is indeed the only compromise that we ever ought to consider making on the right to keep and bear arms.
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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    That's basically how it already is. Only problem is that only sales through registered dealers can be effectively regulated. When it comes to private unregistered citizens, how exactly is this to be regulated? It's a pipe dream at best.
    It's very easy, we do it the same way we handle car registrations. The person to whom the weapon is registered is 100% legally responsible for the weapon, no matter who uses it, unless reported stolen. That leaves the responsibility for the background check and the change in registration to the current registered owner. You sell your gun to someone without a background check and without a change in registration and they go out and shoot up a movie theater, whose ass is on the line? Yours.

    You wouldn't have many people not doing it the right way.
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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Objective-J View Post
    I will never be able to understand how a person convinces themselves this is logical and reality based rational. Its broken logic.

    no guns outside ones home?! Im very thankful on a national level nothing like this will ever come to pass.
    Seriously, how many people have firing ranges in their homes? Oh crap, I can't take my gun to the range because it's illegal to transport it outside of my house!
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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    by 1998, white gun violence in both the UK and continental Europe had surpassed the rate of white gun violence in the USA
    Why does the color of the guns matter? And who keeps those sort of stats? The crayola company?
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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Why does the color of the guns matter?...
    haa!! funny.

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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    haa!! funny.
    I was hoping we could stay clear of the usual argument about which color of guns tend to produce the most crime - the white ones or the dark ones. Although I guess in these discussions it is inevitable it is going to come up.
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    Re: would you support this gun control compromise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thunder View Post
    haa!! funny.

    Yeah it might have been the best post he has made in months

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