View Poll Results: Obama Tax Supporters=What is more Important to You

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    1 6.25%
  • Sticking it to the rich with a tax hike for everyone

    15 93.75%
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The choice is not yours alone. The people will decide, as it should be.
    Your kidding me...right?

    The people don't decide anything. The politicians do.

    If the people decided anything, we wouldn't be saddled with that crappy Obamacare. The people didn't want it. Heck, a bunch of politicians...on both sides...didn't want it. That didn't stop us from getting it, though.

    LOL!!!

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Did you miss the 1990s when we reduced the deficit by both cutting spending and eliminating some of the tax cuts for the wealthy?
    Uh...yeah. I think this statement has been dismissed. No comment from me necessary.

    Of course, the fact that it's been dismissed won't stop you from repeating your lie, I'm sure.
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Both need to be done. When we're over extended here, I take a second job and cut spending. It works real well.
    The thing is...we have no reason to believe Congress WILL do both.

    Tell me, what do you do when you've taken a second job...you've cut spending...but your wife continues to spend like a drunken sailor? Do you take a third job? Or do you force her to stop spending?
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    It makes good sense to have some sort of progressive tax in this country but I think paying federal taxes should start at a much lower income at a much lower rate than the top money makers through just about all income levels with the richest among us paying the most of course. The argument for me would become what is the top marginal rate. It cannot and should not be some ridiculous level like 70 to 80 percent, in fact it should not be above 50%. Everyone should have a stake in this country and be affected by what Congress does in the way of taxes.
    It may be that your sole purpose in life is simply to serve as a warning to others.

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    The thing is...we have no reason to believe Congress WILL do both.

    Tell me, what do you do when you've taken a second job...you've cut spending...but your wife continues to spend like a drunken sailor? Do you take a third job? Or do you force her to stop spending?
    No one asking you to believe. The same type of legislation that makes taxes possible can be written to make cuts possible. What you have to is to ask for it written in the same stone as taxes.

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Your kidding me...right?

    The people don't decide anything. The politicians do.

    If the people decided anything, we wouldn't be saddled with that crappy Obamacare. The people didn't want it. Heck, a bunch of politicians...on both sides...didn't want it. That didn't stop us from getting it, though.

    LOL!!!

    "The people will decide..."

    The people decide who the politicians are that represent them. Health care reform was one of the reasons the people chose Obama over McCain.
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Uh...yeah. I think this statement has been dismissed. No comment from me necessary.

    Of course, the fact that it's been dismissed won't stop you from repeating your lie, I'm sure.
    "Under Clinton, the United States had a projected federal budget surplus for the first time since 1969 in the 1998 federal budget; the budgets for 1999, 2000, and 2001 also had surpluses."

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I think most people have figured out that those who constantly support Obama's divide and conquer class warfare tax scheme really don't care about the deficit. If the deficit is so important than those tax hikers should support massive spending cuts as well as a tax increase on EVERYONE.
    Another post in which you completely disregard what people actually say instead opting to pretend to read their minds with your extra ordinary powers so that you truly know what they think despite any evidence to the contrary.

    This seems to be a growing habit for you lately.
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    No one asking you to believe. The same type of legislation that makes taxes possible can be written to make cuts possible. What you have to is to ask for it written in the same stone as taxes.
    Give me a break. This isn't some fantasy world we are living in.

    The legislation is never written the way you envision...it's always written as: Implement increased taxes now...promise to cut a certain amount over a certain period of time. The result: Taxes increase right now...the cuts never happen.

    The only way to end this procedure is to implement spending cuts...with no conditions. Just do it. After we see reduced government spending, THEN...we can talk about tax increases.

    But, of course, as long as there are Democrats around...especially if they control at least one branch of Congress...this'll never happen. The result: What we have now...both sides trying to spin things to make the other side look bad...and nothing getting done.

    So it goes.
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The people decide who the politicians are that represent them. Health care reform was one of the reasons the people chose Obama over McCain.
    No it wasn't.

    The reason Obama got elected is because he succeeded in painting McCain as Bush...and he suckered people with all of his lies about an "open and transparent" government. Besides, he lied about health care reform as well. He promised to reduce health care costs. Instead he and his Democrat buddies implemented a huge government take-over of a segment of our industry. Over the objections of the people, I might add.

    Now. You are correct that the people select the politicians to represent them. But it sucks when the politician lies to get elected and then the people turn around and believe the next bunch of lies when they re-elect them. We can see this happening again in the current election campaign.
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