View Poll Results: Obama Tax Supporters=What is more Important to You

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  • Saving the tax cuts for yourself (and the rich)

    1 6.25%
  • Sticking it to the rich with a tax hike for everyone

    15 93.75%
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    But I am constantly assured by Obama (in speaches and ads), that using these very SAME tax rates that we have had many consecutive months of steady job growth, and that he is now seeing jobs being "on-shored" as well. How can BOTH you and Obama be correct, if the federal tax rates are the same, yet the job observations are different?
    The economy is not growing quickly enough, all agree with this, even though the stimulus and middle class tax cuts by the president helped.
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    The poll is missing a word. It should say "Obama tax CUT supporters."

    That's right, ladies and gentlemen. Say it with me: Obama cut taxes.

    And oh yeah, our lovely House of Representatives has announced that they will not take up the extension of the middle-class tax cuts and the Obama tax cuts.
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    The poll is missing a word. It should say "Obama tax CUT supporters."

    That's right, ladies and gentlemen. Say it with me: Obama cut taxes.

    And oh yeah, our lovely House of Representatives has announced that they will not take up the extension of the middle-class tax cuts and the Obama tax cuts.

    Uhmm what taxes are being cut?

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Well, I appreciate your spin, but the reality is that the GOP was trying to hold the Democrats to cutting spending in return for allowing increased borrowing.

    Now, the Democrats not only want to not cut spending, but they want to increase borrowing AND increase taxes. They are even willing to allow tax rates to increase on the middle class if they don't get their way.

    You see, spin works both ways.
    The Democrats in their tax proposal that just passed in the Senate included $2.50 in spending cuts for every $1 of revenue increase.

    Additionally:

    "If the government failed to raise the ceiling, a large segment of the population would be affected.

    Treasury Bondholders

    If you own Treasury bonds, you would be severely out of luck. Failing to increase the debt ceiling would hit bondholders’ right in the wallet as they would be unable to receive interest payments. The United States would default on its bond payments and would see its credit rating fall dramatically. Investors would have a difficult time trusting the United States to honor its obligations and demand for long term United States debt would fall.

    Social Security Recipients

    The next group of people to be hit would be those individuals that rely on Social Security to meet their monthly bills."

    Loan Borrowers

    "The danger of default will lead to increased risks for owning U.S. bonds. Increased risks equal higher rates. Business loan borrowers and individuals looking for personal loans would see their borrowing costs rise astronomically. If you were seeking a home or auto loan, you should expect to see drastically higher rates since access to credit would be at a premium. Higher rates corresponding with a weaker dollar would further weaken the economy."

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by winston53660 View Post
    Uhmm what taxes were cut?
    FIFY. This was done by the Stimulus.
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    FIFY. This was done by the Stimulus.
    Cool the middle class needed them.

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    No, those are not the only choices.

    I prefer tax rates staying as they are right now...preferably making them permanent. And, since Congress can't bring themselves to cut anything, I also prefer ALL of the sequestration cuts being implemented in full...not just the defense cuts.
    The cuts for the top brackets are history as is the 15% capital gains rate, get used to it. If the GOP wants to kill their chances with 95% of voters they can cut off their noses to spite their face and let everyones taxes go up. That's always an option. I just doubt they will fall on their swords for the T's. Remember, all taxpayers get a break on income below $250,000 if the Democratic plan is passed.
    Last edited by iguanaman; 07-26-12 at 06:04 PM.

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Boo Radley View Post
    Yeah, from 35% to 39%, wild crazy ****.

    But I said nothing that wasn't ture. The top would not trade places with those below. The are crying crocodile tears, playing victim. But, they know they don't want to be where others are.
    that is an idiotic justification for raising taxes. It would be like telling Roger federer that they are only going to allow him to win one major in a year and justify it by saying he still wouldn't trade places with 50000 other tennis players.

    the fact is, the masses think that other people should pay more so they, the masses, can have more

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Obama will say either defense sequestration cuts go ahead in full or taxes go back to NORMAL for the top bracket. You choose. The Bush tax cuts have always been temporary, I know you think they are the gift that keeps on giving, but the reason they have ALWAYS been temporary is they cost too damn much. You top bracket people have really been cleaning up lately and the "extra" money the Govt. was taking that Bush based the cuts on for those gifts is long gone.
    But you should also remember that you will get the same break the lower brackets get if they keep those cuts at least until the economy has recovered. You will still get the same tax cuts on all your income below $250,000 so don't be so smug about an all or nothing ultimatum. Obama made it VERY clear 2 years ago, those top bracket cuts will NOT be renewed again while he is President. Believe him.
    Its easy picking apart the emotobabbling arguments of the parasite support team members

    the NORMAL TAX RATE is what we have had for 10 years-not the clinton rates that were around for LESS time

    you just make assumptions that taxing the rich MORE is normal which of course is moronic

    Obama lied once about taxes, and the good news is I doubt he will be anything more than a lame duck

    "gifts"

    LOL-the gifts are what the bottom 95% get from the top 5% who pay more of the taxes than the rest of the country

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Its easy picking apart the emotobabbling arguments of the parasite support team members

    the NORMAL TAX RATE is what we have had for 10 years-not the clinton rates that were around for LESS time

    you just make assumptions that taxing the rich MORE is normal which of course is moronic

    Obama lied once about taxes, and the good news is I doubt he will be anything more than a lame duck

    "gifts"

    LOL-the gifts are what the bottom 95% get from the top 5% who pay more of the taxes than the rest of the country
    So you won't give up your tax cuts to save the defense budget but you will give them up if everyones taxes go up. Interesting. You do see that no matter what your taxes are going up and they will go up MORE if all the cuts are eliminated. That has got to be a first for you...wanting to pay more taxes. Kudos for that.
    The Govt. has been spending 20% of GDP for the last 20 years and revenues are at 15% of GDP now. Does that make it more clear why the Bush tax cuts are temporary?
    Last edited by iguanaman; 07-26-12 at 06:18 PM.

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