View Poll Results: Obama Tax Supporters=What is more Important to You

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  • Saving the tax cuts for yourself (and the rich)

    1 6.25%
  • Sticking it to the rich with a tax hike for everyone

    15 93.75%
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    If you want the wealthy to continue creating jobs, the Bush tax cuts for the wealthy need to be renewed.
    What jobs are the wealthy creating? Could you explain please.

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Carleen View Post
    What jobs are the wealthy creating? Could you explain please.
    Try this simple experiment: go to a wealthy neighborhood and seek work, now go to a poor neighborhood and seek work. In which neighborhood did you find more work? I tend to get 95% of my work from those in the wealthier neghborhoods, you may have had a different experience; please feel free to share that with us.
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Neomalthusian View Post
    Dispute what fact? I never suggested we should believe whatever bull**** the rich are telling us today. My previous comment stands. A strong middle class doesn't suckle its strength from a strong federal government or from the rich themselves. A strong middle class stands on its own. How can a middle class be considered strong if it utterly relies on something much greater than itself to be sustained? That is the opposite of strong. That is called "dependent."



    You're either drunk or you're carelessly misusing the term 'hyperbole.'
    Our "strong middle calls" has been sacrificed on the altar of the rich becasue it is the rich that "suckle" now. The rich have bought off our politicians and they feed their benefactors on tax cuts, deregulation, and tax breaks for shipping away our jobs. This must stop before the middle class can rebuild itself. and make no mistake we will.

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Try this simple experiment: go to a wealthy neighborhood and seek work, now go to a poor neighborhood and seek work. In which neighborhood did you find more work? I tend to get 95% of my work from those in the wealthier neghborhoods, you may have had a different experience; please feel free to share that with us.
    Wow what a deep thinker you are. Think about this...the rich spend all they want regardless of tax rates and the extra revenue from theri taxes going back to normal wil get spent too. That is how we grow.
    Last edited by iguanaman; 07-26-12 at 12:06 PM.

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    The current tax rates should stay as they are until the federal government proves that they are willing to cut spending significantly.

    But, given the Democrat's reluctance to cut any spending...except for the military...I have no hope that we will ever achieve a resolution for our dilemma. At some point our government's financial situation is going to fold like a house of cards.
    Actuallly either the tax rates go back to normal for the top brackets or the sequestration defense cuts will be implemented in full. Your choice.

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Regretably, lobbying is "legal" to give money. The hitch in the get-a-long is that congress is NOT required to accept the funds. Of course, if they refused, Elected representative would change rapidly and, we would finally elect patriots rather than greedy. Realistically, how many of these creeps would still be in Washington if the payoff wasn't available? We would have representation by the people and for the people. Government and voting has become a sham. Money is not everything. . .it's the only thing!!
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Try this simple experiment: go to a wealthy neighborhood and seek work, now go to a poor neighborhood and seek work. In which neighborhood did you find more work? I tend to get 95% of my work from those in the wealthier neghborhoods, you may have had a different experience; please feel free to share that with us.
    I have explained before that I have worked with and for nationally known very wealthy CEO. If he needed you, you could receive a decent salary. Not one based on his, but one based on the commodity that you represent. His salary was based on what he could get. For example a CEO can get a portion of the income that is generated by renting back the company logo from a Cayman Island company.
    It's also interesting to to be in Sun Valley when the meeting is held there. You get to see the wealthy up close.

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Wow what a deep thinker you are. Think about this...the rich spend all they want regardless of tax rates and the extra revenue from theri taxes going back to normal wil get spent too. That is how we grow.
    On average, spending stops increasing based on higher income at around $100,000. The rest is generally hoarded, and doesn't go back into the economy. The extra revenue that the upper class obtains beyond that tends to just get shuffled back and forth within that top class, and doesn't pay for making things, building things, paying people's salaries... Nothing. It goes into a black hole and never comes out.
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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    I have explained before that I have worked with and for nationally known very wealthy CEO. If he needed you, you could receive a decent salary. Not one based on his, but one based on the commodity that you represent. His salary was based on what he could get. For example a CEO can get a portion of the income that is generated by renting back the company logo from a Cayman Island company.
    It's also interesting to to be in Sun Valley when the meeting is held there. You get to see the wealthy up close.
    Many different animals may be seen at the zoo, but that was not related to my post either. The rich are not rich because they are stupid, they are CORRECTLY waiting to see if the federal gov't can get its act together, perhaps even pass a "budget". None are likely to expand (hire) in times that the gov't is threatening much higher taxes, stricter "environmental" regulations and mandating ever more expensive medical care insurance benefits. Many see that the federal gov't will soon consume even more than 25% of GDP, and KNOW that they are the ones that will be called upon to pay their "fair share" (i.e. much more) in taxes.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: Obama Tax supporters=what is more important to you

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    On average, spending stops increasing based on higher income at around $100,000. The rest is generally hoarded, and doesn't go back into the economy. The extra revenue that the upper class obtains beyond that tends to just get shuffled back and forth within that top class, and doesn't pay for making things, building things, paying people's salaries... Nothing. It goes into a black hole and never comes out.
    Nonsense. Can you back this "fact" up?
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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