View Poll Results: Should people Open Carry, Conceal Carry, or no carry

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Thread: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    Don't forget about the first part of the sentence, however.
    "A well regulated militia?" I'm not sure I follow you. If you are implying that regulated means that the government reserved the right to restrict the 2nd through regulation, the rulings have said otherwise. Basically, the term means the government's obligation to train and discipline, nothing more.

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    As we say out here in Hicksville, "mo' power to ya" then.

    I prefer to rely on me for my safety.
    Eh, there are plenty of measures one can take to increase their chances of being safe - a gun is only one of them and it doesn't necessarily ensure that you end up relying solely on yourself for safety. It just gives you one more potential level of protection that may or not work to your benefit.

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Eh, there are plenty of measures one can take to increase their chances of being safe - a gun is only one of them and it doesn't necessarily ensure that you end up relying solely on yourself for safety. It just gives you one more potential level of protection that may or not work to your benefit.
    Correct, general preparedness is tatamount. However, if you find yourself in a situation where a firearm is warranted and you have one, you have increased your odds. However, if you find yourself in a situation where a firearm is not needed and you have one, no harm, no foul.

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    Correct, general preparedness is tatamount. However, if you find yourself in a situation where a firearm is warranted and you have one, you have increased your odds. However, if you find yourself in a situation where a firearm is not needed and you have one, no harm, no foul.
    I agree with this. However, there's also the situation where having a firearm decreases your odds. That said, since a lot of those situations may be the result of gun owners who haven't trained properly, a gun owner can decrease the chances of a gun hurting their odds of remaining safe with training. However, if they choose to just buy the gun without getting proper training, they can end up putting their life or others' lives in danger.

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    [QUOTE=ThePlayDrive;1060725528/QUOTE]

    ]I agree with this. However, there's also the situation where having a firearm decreases your odds. That said, since a lot of those situations may be the result of gun owners who haven't trained properly, a gun owner can decrease the chances of a gun hurting their odds of remaining safe with training. However, if they choose to just buy the gun without getting proper training, they can end up putting their life or others' lives in danger.QUOTE]

    That also is correct. Training is a must, and continuing training is also necessary. Training includes the ability to use your weapon (or weapons) without a thought of trying to remember the steps required to fire it and the ability to hit a target in typical self defense range. That is the main reason why I like revolvers for self defense. Nothing to do but point and pull the trigger. Along with technical skills, the mental ability to actually use the weapon should be automatic. A person can travel 20 feet in close to a second. You don't have a few seconds to assess the situation.
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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Interesting to read the fantasies spun up for open carry. I live out on a ranch and at NO time has either the wife, who is a LR competitor, or I have felt the need to strap on the ol' hoglaig.

    The safest place you can be is out fixing fence on your own ranch. Tip of the hat to wannabee cowboys but I can't ever recall a rancher out here packing. Now about half the time I carry my 308 LTR in my truck when I go down to the creek bottom if I have heard/seen feral hog sign, but not because I fear anything. I say half the time because 99 times out of 100 unless I go prowling deep into the woods along the creek, there is nothing worth shouldering the rifle over.

    When it comes to the looks and moving away some good citizens MIGHT do when an old coot rolls into town packing 'cowboy' style, that might be due more to knowing who the pistol is attached to than any fear and loathing of pistols themselves in a small town out in the sticks. You would think that out in small town USofA most folks know what a pistol looks like, seen more than a few attached to someone's hip When I'd come back into town from a day instructing on the range with my XD on the hip it didn't get a second look and no one cleared out of the way like some tired old Western.

    Then again I think some send small children scurrying no matter what is on their hip.

    Personally I don't see open or concealed carry changing much in the way of crime. Some comfort to some people, but as many have mentioned the majority of Americans make it from cradle to nursing home without ever being attacked by a firearm, outside service to country.

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Doesn't matter to me, whatever floats your boat, so long as you have the proper licenses and permits to do so. Personally, I don't even own guns anymore, I live in an area that is extremely low-crime (someone got murdered about 5 years ago and everyone freaked out because it was the first murder in about 40 years) and I would have no problem walking down Main Street at 2am with hundred dollar bills hanging out of my pockets.
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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Doesn't matter to me, whatever floats your boat, so long as you have the proper licenses and permits to do so. Personally, I don't even own guns anymore, I live in an area that is extremely low-crime (someone got murdered about 5 years ago and everyone freaked out because it was the first murder in about 40 years) and I would have no problem walking down Main Street at 2am with hundred dollar bills hanging out of my pockets.
    This is pretty much where my mind goes in terms of staying safe. I would prefer to just live in area where crime is pretty much nonexistent than to live in area where it's prevalent and I'm worried about what kind of gun I have.

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    "A well regulated militia?" I'm not sure I follow you. If you are implying that regulated means that the government reserved the right to restrict the 2nd through regulation, the rulings have said otherwise. Basically, the term means the government's obligation to train and discipline, nothing more.
    The problem is, you need to look at the Constitution in the context of when it was written to properly understand it. At the time it was written, we had no standing army, every white adult male was expected to come to the defense of their town/city/state/nation in the event of war or insurrection. They were expected to supply their own firearms and be well-versed in their use. That is specifically why "a well regulated militia" appears in the 2nd amendment.

    Jump forward a hundred years or so and we do have a standing military and the people are not expected, nor even permitted, to engage the enemy, and the 2nd amendment no longer applies to the situation originally intended. Now don't get me wrong, I have nothing against gun ownership, I support it in fact, I'm just against using a document in a means it was never intended. The problem is, you have the Supreme Court continually redefining the Constitution to cover things that it was never written to cover, to apply to situations that the founding fathers could never have conceived. The Constitution just is not the end-all, be-all of everything. The farther we get from the days of the founding fathers, the more convoluted every finding the Supreme Court makes to cover ideas and concepts that would be utterly alien to the founding fathers.
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