View Poll Results: Should people Open Carry, Conceal Carry, or no carry

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Thread: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    Yeah, that makes sense

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    I think open carry is a good compromise between safety and personal gun rights, so long as there's a provision for allowing concealment at one's home (though I'm sure that's already in there). If I see someone with a gun, then I'd give them a wider berth if I were up to no good, but so long as I'm not doing anything bad, my chances of that gun causing a problem remain low. Keep in mind that the 2nd Amendment gives citizens the right to keep and bear arms, but not necessarily to hide them. After all, when minutemen had to grab their guns, they didn't reach for handguns.

    That being said, I'm open to reasoning why we need the right of concealed carry as well.
    There are actually two parts of the 2nd that get in the way of anti gun people. The right to keep and bear is one, but equally important is the "shall not be infringed". That is where anti sell, anti ammunition, anti hide, and the like fall.

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin
    If you live in Chicago.... well, if you live in certain parts of the city and you're careful where you go, I suppose... but you HAVE noticed that Chicago has a murder rate around 3x higher than the national average, right?

    The top 20 large cities by murder rate are.... N'OrleansLA, St LouisMO, BaltimoreMD, DetroitMI, NewarkNJ, OaklandCA, WashingtonDC, Kansas CityMO, BuffaloNY, CincinnatiOH, PhillyPA, ClevelandOH, PittsburgPA, AtlantaGA, StocktonCA, MilwaukeeWI, MiamiFL, and ChicagoIL.

    Atlanta and Miami are the only ones on that list with particularly easygoing gun laws.


    Large cities with lower homicide rates include SanAntonio, Corpus Cristi, Austin, Arlington, Fort Worth, Houston, Plano, and El Paso, all in Texas.... Memphis Tennessee; Charlotte NC; Tucson Arizona; Mobile Alabama; Jacksonville FL; Nashville TN; Greensboro NC; Las Vegas Nevada; Anchorage Alaska; Lincoln Nebraska.... nearly all of which have less restrictive gun laws than Chicago, and "shall issue" carry permits.
    I wish more people would realize this.

    Anyway, I support conceal. I'm not necessarily against open carry, but you may spook some people by having a .44 in clear view.

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by cpgrad08 View Post
    I prefer Arizona style of law were no permit is required. In Washington you need a permit to CCW but no permit to OCW.
    I forgot to add "without". The right to bear arms is a constitutional right that the government has no business infringing on.
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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    I voted "Rutabaga" due to the wording of the question.

    People "should" do whatever they're comfortable with. Carry, don't carry, open, concealed, whatever.

    I would be worried, with open carry, about a particularly nimble criminal getting it off me. Maybe I've had too much exposure to pick pockets, but I know that people that quick do exist. You'd be amazed what they can take off you without you noticing. That would worry me, personally. I would feel more comfortable having it hidden, if I was going to carry.
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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    There are actually two parts of the 2nd that get in the way of anti gun people. The right to keep and bear is one, but equally important is the "shall not be infringed". That is where anti sell, anti ammunition, anti hide, and the like fall.
    Don't forget about the first part of the sentence, however.
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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by ThePlayDrive View Post
    Chicago's murder rate has little to nothing to do with gun laws. It has to do with poverty, urban structure and most of all, a perpetually stupid city government that has no idea what it's doing. Regardless, as I said before, I grew up in a "gun free" zone with low crime and might as well be nonexistent murder rate. As a result, I'm not really moved by claims that guns are necessary for safety. Perhaps there are multiple ways to reduce crime - carry laws being one of them - but it's clear that those aren't not the only way and I'd prefer the ways that don't have them.

    As far as being limited to where I can live - that doesn't really matter to me.

    As we say out here in Hicksville, "mo' power to ya" then.

    I prefer to rely on me for my safety.

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    I voted "Rutabaga" due to the wording of the question.

    People "should" do whatever they're comfortable with. Carry, don't carry, open, concealed, whatever.

    I would be worried, with open carry, about a particularly nimble criminal getting it off me. Maybe I've had too much exposure to pick pockets, but I know that people that quick do exist. You'd be amazed what they can take off you without you noticing. That would worry me, personally. I would feel more comfortable having it hidden, if I was going to carry.

    That is a good and valid point. Back when I was a cop, we went through classes on "weapon retention" and watched training films showing how easily an experienced criminal can rip the sidearm off your belt holster. As a result of bad experiences in this regard, most departments required Level II or Level III "Retention holsters" for on duty carry, which were designed to make it difficult for anyone to remove your weapon from the holster without knowing exactly how it worked.

    The flip side of this of course is that you have to hit the two snap-releases correctly or YOU won't be able to draw the gun either.

    As a matter of personal preference I will stick with concealed.

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    I forgot to add "without". The right to bear arms is a constitutional right that the government has no business infringing on.
    so you think children should have the right to buy handguns and assault rifles?

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    Re: Open carry vs Concealed Carry

    I personally prefer CCW for the purposes of myself being the only person who knows what and where it is. Not only could a sneaky POS grab your weapon if they could see it on your person but they know what to look for to stop you from engaging it if you need it, say if you were to go to towards a wall and two perps were about to rob the same store you are at, perp one grabs your shooting arm and pins you to the wall, you are now ineffective and so is your gun. If they assumed you to just be another potential victim perp one may take for granted that you are there and "unarmed" and wouldn't necessarily blindside you.
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