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    Re: Are savings from a tax law change "income the tax payer did not earn">

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    cutting through the BS-do you believe a tax cut is the same thing as a handout?
    It is handout if its on unearned income. You do know what "unearned income" is don't you?

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    Re: Are savings from a tax law change "income the tax payer did not earn">

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It is handout if its on unearned income. You do know what "unearned income" is don't you?
    Please enlighten us.
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    then you are a hypocrite and everything you say on the matter is just babble.

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    Re: Are savings from a tax law change "income the tax payer did not earn">

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    You did nothing but change a label - the reality didn't change at all. In my world that's called PR, not discussion.
    on the contrary, the thing itself is distinct and unique. in my world, we also point out that words are important and definitions matter

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    Re: Are savings from a tax law change "income the tax payer did not earn">

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    It is handout if its on unearned income. You do know what "unearned income" is don't you?
    More idiocy. So i work hard and make 100K and I invest it and from that investment I make more money


    how is that UNEARNED.

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    Re: Are savings from a tax law change "income the tax payer did not earn">

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    Please enlighten us.
    I suspect her definition is not based on the tax code definition. many people who don't have the wherewithal to invest wisely think its like winning the lottery.

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    Re: Are savings from a tax law change "income the tax payer did not earn">

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    More idiocy. So i work hard and make 100K and I invest it and from that investment I make more money


    how is that UNEARNED.
    You said it yourself you "made money" but you didn't "earn" it. There is a big difference between investing money and earning money. One is that much like gambling, you are not guarenteed a return on your money from investing, whereas if you work hard at a job using your labor for someone you are almost guarenteed to get to paid because you earned it.

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    Re: Are savings from a tax law change "income the tax payer did not earn">

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I suspect her definition is not based on the tax code definition. many people who don't have the wherewithal to invest wisely think its like winning the lottery.
    My definition is based on the tax code and I know this because I looked it up before responding to you. Maybe you should do the same before posting such an ignorant thread.

    http://www.irs.gov/individuals/artic...176508,00.html

    Examples of Income that is Not Earned Income:

    Pay received for work while an inmate in a penal institution
    Interest and dividends
    Retirement Income
    Social security
    Unemployment benefits,
    Alimony
    Child support.
    Last edited by Moot; 07-24-12 at 12:18 AM.

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    Re: Are savings from a tax law change "income the tax payer did not earn">

    Income not earned is income that is grossly disproportional to what the income is being paid for. For example, those who are paid extraordinary sums for doing nothing by shuffling money around so that other people can obtain extraordinary sums. Meanwhile, people who actually make things are getting almost nothing. The first group is making a whole lot of money that wasn't "earned", in the sense of being deserved. The second is making a whole lot less than they deserve.
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    Re: Are savings from a tax law change "income the tax payer did not earn">

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    on the contrary, the thing itself is distinct and unique. in my world, we also point out that words are important and definitions matter
    This isn't English class, son, it's politics. Misleading names and swapping labels is common practice. Words mean what Madison Ave decides can be sold and spun. Obviously you're too young to understand this simple idea. Give it a couple more decades of watching the circus and maybe you'll figure it out. "The labels will be changed to protect the guilty" - standard protocol in all capital cities across the country and especially in DC.
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    Re: Are savings from a tax law change "income the tax payer did not earn">

    Quote Originally Posted by Paschendale View Post
    Income not earned is income that is grossly disproportional to what the income is being paid for.
    That's you trying to impose your personal judgment on whether an agreement between two other parties satisfies your definition of fair.

    For example, those who are paid extraordinary sums for doing nothing by shuffling money around so that other people can obtain extraordinary sums. Meanwhile, people who actually make things are getting almost nothing. The first group is making a whole lot of money that wasn't "earned", in the sense of being deserved. The second is making a whole lot less than they deserve.
    If you're not one of the parties involved in the business arrangement, your concept of what is deserved within that business arrangement is meaningless.

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