View Poll Results: Does the government do ANYTHING right?

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  • Sometimes yes, sometimes no.

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  • Usually not "better" (read: cost efficient), but should still be in charge of for other reasons.

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  • No, never.

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    Re: Does the government do ANYTHING right?

    In some ways its a better question to ask what should be controlled at the federal level versus the state and local level. For example, most people would not necessarily support privatizing public education, but a lot of people would support getting the federal government out of it and bring it back fully to state and local funding and control.
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    Re: Does the government do ANYTHING right?

    Private Capitals ONLY goal is to make a profit: Some of them do a good job, some do a bad job, sometimes they do better, sometimes worse.

    Governments ONLY goal is the common good: Some do a good job, some do a bad job, sometimes they do better, sometimes worse.

    The difference is that even when private capital does good, it passes on tons of externalities onto the common good, and it creates systemic inbalances.

    BTW, not all government is made equal, for example there is a HUGE difference between the goernment of Saudi Arabia and Switzerland, in my opinion the more federated, the least centralized the government the better.

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    Re: Does the government do ANYTHING right?

    You can tell who the hacks are in this thread.

    Government does a good job with the emergency services such as the fire departments that help preserve my life.

    Private sector does a good job at inventing awesome new gadgets that make that life more enjoyable.
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    Re: Does the government do ANYTHING right?

    Actually a huge chunk, if not most, of the ground braking innovation is from the public sector.

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    Re: Does the government do ANYTHING right?

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    Private Capitals ONLY goal is to make a profit: Some of them do a good job, some do a bad job, sometimes they do better, sometimes worse.

    Governments ONLY goal is the common good: Some do a good job, some do a bad job, sometimes they do better, sometimes worse.

    The difference is that even when private capital does good, it passes on tons of externalities onto the common good, and it creates systemic inbalances.

    BTW, not all government is made equal, for example there is a HUGE difference between the goernment of Saudi Arabia and Switzerland, in my opinion the more federated, the least centralized the government the better.
    I would modify one of your statements to read:

    Governments ONLY stated goal is the common good... its other goal is to perpetuate itself: : Some do a good job, some do a bad job, sometimes they do better, sometimes worse.
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    Re: Does the government do ANYTHING right?

    I've worked my parent's business. I've been a engineer for several private several companies and with many supporting companies. I used, working in their labs etc., several private compannies that do testing that is required by the government. I've interfaced, because of family needs, with government agencies, e.g. Social Security, in more detail that is typical for most people. I spent 4 years in the USAF, in trouble a lot for doing my job better than I was supposed to. The military is the worst run organization, but they tend to be. So, other than the military, I can't tell any difference between private business doing things right and private companies doing things right.

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    Re: Does the government do ANYTHING right?

    I have to correct my own post; I ment to conclude "I can't tell any difference between private business doing things right and government doing things right
    Quote Originally Posted by OhIsee.Then View Post
    I've worked my parent's business. I've been a engineer for several private several companies and with many supporting companies. I used, working in their labs etc., several private compannies that do testing that is required by the government. I've interfaced, because of family needs, with government agencies, e.g. Social Security, in more detail that is typical for most people. I spent 4 years in the USAF, in trouble a lot for doing my job better than I was supposed to. The military is the worst run organization, but they tend to be. So, other than the military, I can't tell any difference between private business doing things right and private companies, no. the government doing things right.

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    Re: Does the government do ANYTHING right?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    Except they did not build those mountains. They did not lay the rivers.

    You should be thanking God, not the government.
    Yeah, don't believe in God. I believe in nature and thank the government for making sure Coca Cola doesn't stick up a sign on those mountains just for promotional purposes.
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    Re: Does the government do ANYTHING right?

    One thing it makes absolutely no economic sense for the government to be involved in is mail/postage. At least IMHO.

    Government can, and should provide the public with public goods (and there is a certain degree as to what qualifies as a public good depending on your perspective), but generally includes law enforcement, emergency services, primary education, healthcare, and national defense. Lighthouses are a typical economics textbook example of a public good.
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    Bifurcating victory (e.g. winning militarily, losing politically) is a useful salve for defeated armies. The "stab in the back" narrative helped take the sting out of failure for German generals after WWI and their American counterparts after Vietnam.

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    Re: Does the government do ANYTHING right?

    govt. is no more perfect or imperfect than the people who work for it or the folks who elect it.

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