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Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

  • Yes

    Votes: 5 11.4%

  • No

    Votes: 38 86.4%

  • Other

    Votes: 1 2.3%
  • Total voters
    44
Proud South Korean said:
Threat? No
Wannabe? Yes
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Considering the amount of people that defend Chavez as not a dictator and espouse his propaganda here in the US, I would say that Chavez is a propagandist threat.

"This movement of popular outrage is expanding to 10 cities and the repression is horrible, I don't know how many are in prison now," Chavez said in comments at a political meeting in his Caracas presidential palace shown on state TV..."Poverty's growing, the misery is getting worse," he said, referring to the causes of the U.S. protests. "But that empire is still there, still a threat ... [President Barack] Obama is on his way down, for lots of reasons. He was a big fraud." Hugo Chavez Endorses #OccupyWallStreet | Mother Jones

Plus Hugo seems to say exactly what the occupiers keep saying. Hmmm kind of strange.


Anyway no Chavez is not a military threat that would be funny. Well not really but...
 
Chavez has been elected and re-elected over and over again in democratic elections certified as free and fair by teams of international observers. The people of Venezuela may know a thing or two about Chavez and about what he replaced in Venezuela that uninformed outsiders and international busy-bodies don't have any sort of grip on at all. Rational US policy would have had us working to find ways to cooperate in Venezuela over all these years, but instead we've been nothing but ignorant cheerleaders and grandstanders for the actual bad guys down there. That doesn't make much sense. Unless all you care about is money.
 
:shrug: Or Colombia. Or Honduras. Or Syrian civilians who will suffer from his support of the Assad regime. Or the Iranian Green movement, who are done no favors by Chavez' alliance with the regime of the Basij. Or Cubans, currently suffering under a dictatorship kept afloat by the fat little man in Caracas. Or - to cite the classic - etc. etc. etc....
 
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Cardinal Fang said:
Chavez has been elected and re-elected over and over again in democratic elections certified as free and fair by teams of international observers. The people of Venezuela may know a thing or two about Chavez and about what he replaced in Venezuela that uninformed outsiders and international busy-bodies don't have any sort of grip on at all. Rational US policy would have had us working to find ways to cooperate in Venezuela over all these years, but instead we've been nothing but ignorant cheerleaders and grandstanders for the actual bad guys down there. That doesn't make much sense. Unless all you care about is money.
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Yeah and people in North Korea really do love Kim-Il-Sung and Kim-Jong-Il, so I guess that makes them democratic
 
FreedomFromAll said:
I only object to people exclusively using fox to obtain information, or any other single news outlet. Much can be learned from fox but it just depends what one is trying to learn.
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They usually get pretty close on the weather. As far as actual news goes, they are pretty much just a right-wing infomercial network.
 
Cardinal Fang said:
They usually get pretty close on the weather. As far as actual news goes, they are pretty much just a right-wing infomercial network.
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while their editorial shows are pretty bad, their general news reporting isn't the worst I've come across (that would likely go to some internet outfit).
 
cpwill said:
that is precisely correct.



Yup. I spent about 6 months reading about these guys. Chavez is an a-hole and he supports a-holes.



I've dealt with actual factual information and actual analysis on the topic of Chavez and his extracurricular activities. Trust me on this one, DS, you are being suckered into defending a guy who really truly is someone you don't want to be associated with.
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Perfect analysis he also supports iran and tried to make some halfarsed coalition with their little dirtbag president....but in the end chavis is no security threat to the USA...hes what you said he was...an AH
 
Dr. Chuckles said:
while their editorial shows are pretty bad, their general news reporting isn't the worst I've come across (that would likely go to some internet outfit).
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Being "not the worst" isn't a hall-pass for being as deliberately bad as they are, No one with the slightest interest in an independent approach to news and events should ever turn them on.
 
lpast said:
Perfect analysis...
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No, it's the same old narrow, skimmed and canned analyis as always, this time prefaced with I'm-an-expert=trust-me assurances that are simply a laugh.
 
Cardinal Fang said:
Being "not the worst" isn't a hall-pass for being as deliberately bad as they are, No one with the slightest interest in an independent approach to news and events should ever turn them on.
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came across plenty are articles from their news service that were no better, or worse, than the majority of mainstream, cable outlets
 
kaya'08 said:
Mitt Romney: Venezuela

Do you agree with Romney that Chavez poses a direct national security threat to the U.S.A, or do you think this is nothing more than fear mongering against socialism in Latin America that shouldn't be taken so seriously?

This story has been posted elsewhere on this forum but i am seeking to establish consensus amongst American users on DP through the use of a poll, to see if they agree or disagree with Mitt.
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There is verrry little I would agree with Romney.
 
Cardinal Fang said:
They usually get pretty close on the weather. As far as actual news goes, they are pretty much just a right-wing infomercial network.
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I never trust the weather forecasters anywhere lol or any news station or site. I always double check the story to make sure.
 
Cardinal Fang said:
It's telling enough that you Like them once.
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Actually what's telling is the continued leftist willingness to go to the mats to defend thugs because they happen to also be socialists.
 
cpwill said:
Actually what's telling is the continued leftist willingness to go to the mats to defend thugs because they happen to also be socialists.
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there is a lot of sad truth to this.
 
cpwill said:
Actually what's telling is the continued leftist willingness to go to the mats to defend thugs because they happen to also be socialists.
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I disagree. I think you are confused about leftists, liberals, etc. Generally speaking, they believe strongly in Capitalism, and abhor Corporatism. Granted Capitalism may generate more social programs, but Corporatism eliminates social programs.
 
FreedomFromAll said:
I never trust the weather forecasters anywhere lol or any news station or site. I always double check the story to make sure.
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If you have to double-check everything they say, why do you bother to go to Fox first? Wny not just skip directly to whatever sources you already recognize as being more reliable?
 
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cpwill said:
Actually what's telling is the continued leftist willingness to go to the mats to defend thugs because they happen to also be socialists.
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The only thugs around here are the propaganda-driven people without a clue who want to bash away at the people of Venezuela for having at long last thrown off a regime of brutal impoverishers and oppressors. I meanwhile haven't supported a single Chavez policy. The only one I've so much as mentioned was the free home heating oil provided to hundreds of thousands of freezing Ameican families. All I've done otherwise is point out the feeble and hollow nature of complaints lodged against Chavez. These phony critics need to come up with some better material.
 
Cardinal Fang said:
If you have to double-check everything they say, why do you bother to go to Fox first? Wny not just skip directly to whatever sources you already recognize as being more reliable?
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Who goes to fox first? Do you go to fox first? Hell I barely even go to fox at all. Most of the time if I see a fox story I copy and paste the title in google and search for it. After that if, I am interested I look at many different sites to hear different points of view. After that (or before depending on the story) I try to find an actual source. Even after that I may end up still being skeptical of the information available.

I do not recognize any individual source as being reliable, foremost I am a skeptic I need more than so and so reported.
 
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