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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That's exactly what he did to Colombia. He provided shelter and support for a terrorist group that launched kidnap and kill operations into Colombia.
    that is precisely correct.

    I know enough history to understand what FARC is and what Chavez did with them.
    Yup. I spent about 6 months reading about these guys. Chavez is an a-hole and he supports a-holes.

    Quote Originally Posted by DemSocialist
    So you dont like factual information and analysis?
    I've dealt with actual factual information and actual analysis on the topic of Chavez and his extracurricular activities. Trust me on this one, DS, you are being suckered into defending a guy who really truly is someone you don't want to be associated with.
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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    [QUOTE=cpwill;I've dealt with actual factual information and actual analysis on the topic of Chavez and his extracurricular activities. Trust me on this one, DS, you are being suckered into defending a guy who really truly is someone you don't want to be associated with. QUOTE]



    I can only think a brain transplant went awry. Links? "Trust me." That is the favorite quotation of used car salesmen. Chavez's job is to take care of Venezuelans. He's Nationalized some foreign Corporations and their assets. That's good for Venezuelans. He has marginalized the power of the wealthy 1% in Venezuela. That's good for Venezuelans and we should do it in this Country. He knows he is threatened by the radical right wing USA nutjobs and you can prove that to yourself by reading this thread. You really have to compare Chavez to the world's most prolific peddlers of chaos, mayhem, and death, as in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, much of Latin America, etc., etc., etc., Don't you think?

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post


    I can only think a brain transplant went awry. Links? "Trust me." That is the favorite quotation of used car salesmen. Chavez's job is to take care of Venezuelans. He's Nationalized some foreign Corporations and their assets. That's good for Venezuelans. He has marginalized the power of the wealthy 1% in Venezuela. That's good for Venezuelans and we should do it in this Country. He knows he is threatened by the radical right wing USA nutjobs and you can prove that to yourself by reading this thread. You really have to compare Chavez to the world's most prolific peddlers of chaos, mayhem, and death, as in Iraq, Libya, Afghanistan, much of Latin America, etc., etc., etc., Don't you think?
    And Chavez is the new 1%. Kind of a sideways step but worse.
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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by FreedomFromAll View Post
    That is the same reasoning that people use to invade another nation.

    Are you saying it's a bad thing to invade another country?

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by johnny_rebson View Post
    Are you saying it's a bad thing to invade another country?
    Depends entirely on the situation. For example no one has really said anything against the US invading France during WW2. Most of the complaints were that we were late to the party.

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    Threat? No
    Wannabe? Yes
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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Proud South Korean View Post
    Threat? No
    Wannabe? Yes
    Considering the amount of people that defend Chavez as not a dictator and espouse his propaganda here in the US, I would say that Chavez is a propagandist threat.

    "This movement of popular outrage is expanding to 10 cities and the repression is horrible, I don't know how many are in prison now," Chavez said in comments at a political meeting in his Caracas presidential palace shown on state TV..."Poverty's growing, the misery is getting worse," he said, referring to the causes of the U.S. protests. "But that empire is still there, still a threat ... [President Barack] Obama is on his way down, for lots of reasons. He was a big fraud." Hugo Chavez Endorses #OccupyWallStreet | Mother Jones

    Plus Hugo seems to say exactly what the occupiers keep saying. Hmmm kind of strange.


    Anyway no Chavez is not a military threat that would be funny. Well not really but...

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Chavez has been elected and re-elected over and over again in democratic elections certified as free and fair by teams of international observers. The people of Venezuela may know a thing or two about Chavez and about what he replaced in Venezuela that uninformed outsiders and international busy-bodies don't have any sort of grip on at all. Rational US policy would have had us working to find ways to cooperate in Venezuela over all these years, but instead we've been nothing but ignorant cheerleaders and grandstanders for the actual bad guys down there. That doesn't make much sense. Unless all you care about is money.

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Or Colombia. Or Honduras. Or Syrian civilians who will suffer from his support of the Assad regime. Or the Iranian Green movement, who are done no favors by Chavez' alliance with the regime of the Basij. Or Cubans, currently suffering under a dictatorship kept afloat by the fat little man in Caracas. Or - to cite the classic - etc. etc. etc....
    Last edited by cpwill; 07-25-12 at 12:31 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    Chavez has been elected and re-elected over and over again in democratic elections certified as free and fair by teams of international observers. The people of Venezuela may know a thing or two about Chavez and about what he replaced in Venezuela that uninformed outsiders and international busy-bodies don't have any sort of grip on at all. Rational US policy would have had us working to find ways to cooperate in Venezuela over all these years, but instead we've been nothing but ignorant cheerleaders and grandstanders for the actual bad guys down there. That doesn't make much sense. Unless all you care about is money.
    Yeah and people in North Korea really do love Kim-Il-Sung and Kim-Jong-Il, so I guess that makes them democratic
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