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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    No, I don't like BS media that feeds propaganda to commie-wannabes. And that's probably what your cited website is, seeing as it has a stupid name and is focused entirely on Venezuela.
    So reporting on events in Venezuela is a "propaganda machine"? I mean if its propaganda to report on how the Chavez government is kicking out FARC bases in his country, and helping rescue hostages held with FARC, speaking out against their tactics, and that the OAS Secretary General stated that their is no connection between FARC and Venezuela... I mean if that is "propaganda and BS" then whatever. Stay that narrow minded.



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    You call that factual information and analysis? Whatever, dude.

    Its in the opinion section bud...


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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Its in the opinion section bud...
    That was the homepage. A featured article. No dude, take that weak sauce elsewhere. I know what FARC has done, and I know about Chavez's involvement with them in the 90s and 00s.

    Your source is crap and will not be respected. Unless you got something other than a flat-out propaganda website, we're done. Here's their "About Us" page. Every one of them's a stinkin' commie. And the first paragraph is repeated, how amateur.

    http://venezuelanalysis.com/about



    Venezuelanalysis.com is described in several newspapers as "pro-Chávez";[1][3][10] other sources say it is "left-leaning".[1][11] Wilpert, a founder and editor, describes the website as "mostly pro-Chavez";
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venezuelanalysis.com

    They claim a yearly budget of only $10k (that's not a whole lot of room for analysis). Any guesses who runs the "Fundación para la Justicia Económica Global" (the parent organization)? Ten bucks says it's the Chavez regime.




    THAT's what you consider "factual information and analysis"? wow
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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Hey dude, do you object to people using Fox News? 'Cause that would be freakin' hilarious.

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    Yes, he may not go directly to war with us, but he supports other regimes and governments that are hostile to our national security interests. He is an indirect threat.
    Thats how I view him...hes another castro, no direct threat but a threat by association. The cuban crisis is similar castro asked russia to come in and set up missile silos..and they did what he couldnt do himself.
    Chavez by his own mouth hates us and has befriended among others Iran just because they are our enemy. Does this mean I think we should attack venezuela? hell no... but I dont think we should poopoo all hes done and said and forget about him...I think we should keep an eye on him

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    It is EVERY humans duty to act within their conscience ...
    That is the same reasoning that people use to invade another nation.

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Why do we always have to find an enemy, someone to point the finger at and say "you're next". Since this countries creation we have been this exact way. Its somewhat psychopathic.

    And I reject the idea that there are actual sovereign nations out there that want to attack us on our home soil. Ok, maybe Iran, but do you really think they would be that stupid? If you do, I'll add paranoid to the diagnosis.
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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Keep in mind that our Nation has prospered, even thrived on war, war making, weapons, war machines, war fuels, war contracting, war infrastructure, war foods, warplanes, war media and a constant repetoire of new and imagined threats of real and imaginary enemies and most citizens believe all the bullcrap, all the time. Lots of them on this website. Thinking ain't illegal, but obviously it ain't popular. The media tells us that Hugo has our OIL under his dirt and that he is a lowdown, scumsuckin' commie. Now , if all he had was rice paddies and rocks, he'd be harmless. On yeh! Well, he has the support of the populace as evidenced by being reelected 7 times and that should end discussions of legitamacy. He has Nationalized instead of Privatized and I think we should follow his lead in this Country. Our Energy Corporations profit handsomely on war and are allowed to buy all the Media they can afford to gin up new wars and many people think those wars are their own ideas. Great programming and it is working as evidenced by many posters here. The "Mighty Wurlitzer" keeps on crankin', did you notice?

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That was the homepage. A featured article. No dude, take that weak sauce elsewhere.
    So you dont think its a reliable outlet because of the websites layout?

    I know what FARC has done, and I know about Chavez's involvement with them in the 90s and 00s.
    Apparently you only no one very narrow side... And refuse to see the other side.

    Your source is crap and will not be respected. Unless you got something other than a flat-out propaganda website, we're done. Here's their "About Us" page. Every one of them's a stinkin' commie. And the first paragraph is repeated, how amateur.

    About venezuelanalysis.com | venezuelanalysis.com

    Commies?




    They claim a yearly budget of only $10k (that's not a whole lot of room for analysis). Any guesses who runs the "Fundación para la Justicia Económica Global" (the parent organization)? Ten bucks says it's the Chavez regime.
    Ok. Any proof?



    THAT's what you consider "factual information and analysis"? wow
    So basically you wont even look at it because of 1.)the layout of the website and 2.)the about us section.

    So you refuse to read news because of the source?
    So answer me this, are you caliming the links i provided are "lies"?


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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Hey dude, do you object to people using Fox News? 'Cause that would be freakin' hilarious.
    Hey dude, no i dont.


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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So you dont think its a reliable outlet because of the websites layout?


    Apparently you only no one very narrow side... And refuse to see the other side.



    Commies?





    Ok. Any proof?




    So basically you wont even look at it because of 1.)the layout of the website and 2.)the about us section.

    So you refuse to read news because of the source?
    So answer me this, are you caliming the links i provided are "lies"?


    VENEZUELA ANALYSIS, INC., NEW YORK, NY
    Alek Boyd: Gregory Wilpert of Venezuelanalysis married to Chavez's official

    Gregory Wilpert: Chavez defender | GlobalPost Perhaps the most prominent Chavista is Gregory Wilpert, editor of venezuelaanalysis.com, an English-language news website, and author of “Changing Venezuela By Taking Power: The History and Policies of the Chavez Government.” Wilpert, is a German-American sociologist and a former U.S. Fulbright scholar studying development in Caracas. He currently teaches political science at Brooklyn College’s Graduate Center for Worker Education in New York.



    About venezuelanalysis.com | venezuelanalysis.com Web server services and bandwith is donated by Aporrea.org, a larger site maintained by grassroots groups in Venezuela. Venezuelanalysis.com is a project of Venezuela Analysis, Inc., which is registered as a non-profit organization in New York State and of the Fundación para la Justicia Económica Global, which is a foundation that is registered in Caracas, Venezuela.

    Sobre Aporrea.org BIRTH

    Aporrea born in May 2002 as the website of the People's Revolutionary joint space-revolutionary popular, established on April 10, 2002, essentially to meet the offensive of the bourgeoisie coup against Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez and the defense of the conquests of the Constitution of the Bolivarian Republic of Venezuela and the will of the people. For details, see Revolutionary People's Assembly: Aporrea.org source at the end of this document.

    After the Revolutionary People's Congress meeting left as such, have been a cyclical coordination space, mutant forms of grouping of political activists for action in late 2002, the website went online Aporrea.org, feeding on the information produced by their own readers, spontaneous street reporters that emerged, by spokespersons of organizations, by his team of volunteers and a network of communicators other popular alternative and community media.

    In its design and administration came together creators Martín Sánchez and Gonzalo Gomez and popular fighters longtime Venezuelan social movements in Venezuela. Then have been adding new volunteers whose efforts and dedication contribute to its growth and consolidation. Several colleagues have joined the team and disembodied. For example, in 2004, Sanchez retired from the group to take a position as a diplomat for the Venezuelan government. The same has happened with others as Mario Silva, who is now host of The Hojilla and ran for governor of Carabobo state.

    The proposed Aporrea popular communication took a giant leap from his role as means of information and discussion of workers and communities against the oil sabotage and coup lockout which was the second great wave of fascist oligarchy and empire against the Venezuelan revolutionary process.

    Subsequently, Aporrea joined the National Association of Community Media, Free and Alternative (ANMCLA) and participated in their national meetings and conferences to mobilize, as well as its National Coordination.


    venezuelanalysis.com is a documented propagandist voice of the the Chavez regime.

    Aporrea.org is a billboard of Venezuelan popular movements and progressive-revolutionary activism in the world with their expressions of life and thought that passed through its general news section and opinion-reflection, and their thematic sections on different defense-related aspects of principles and rights, to life and struggles of the people and their social organizations.

    PROPUESTA PROGRAMÁTICA INICIAL PARA LA ASAMBLEA POPULAR REVOLUCIONARIA - Por: Comisión de la Asamblea Popular Revolucionaria de Caracas.

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