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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    not necessarily disagreeing, but your earlier comment seemed to completely ignore the PR edge to the act
    it was a stunt. that he cared more about garnering good PR for himself than the food and energy shortage in his own country is rather telling.

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Let's do be realistic. realistically, Chavez is a threat force. Realistically, he is unlikely to attack the continental United States or serve as the launching pad for a third-party nation state attack on the United States. Realistically, he is likely willing to serve as the launching pad for a third-party non nation state attack on the United States.
    Really he is? Uhhh please share how your backing up these claims....


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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Really he is? Uhhh please share how your backing up these claims....
    He did it to Colombia.

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    He did it to Colombia.
    Wait he invaded Colombia? He supported people that invaded Colombia? Are you talking about FARC?
    If so ill post what i posted earlier this month on that:
    "The documents' evidence of Venezuelan support for the Farc was so weak that Organisation of American States secretary general José Miguel Insulza told the US House subcommittee on western hemispheric affairs just a month later thatthere was "no evidence" of such support or collusion."
    "Even more damning for the Colombian military's case were statements last year by General Douglas Fraser, head of the US Southern Command, in response to questions from Senator John McCain, regarding the alleged Venezuela-Farc connection, and the laptop "revelations": "We have not seen any connections specifically that I can verify that there has been a direct government-to-terrorist connection," Fraser stated, adding, "I am skeptical." (Fraser recanted his testimony the following day, following a meeting with the top state department official for Latin America, Arturo Valenzuela. But Fraser, as the US military's leader for activities in South America, is in a much better position to know.)"
    What the FARC Files Really Reveal | venezuelanalysis.com

    Also Chavez criticizes FARC a damn good amount, especially with their tactics: Chávez urges Colombia's FARC rebels to free all civilian hostages | venezuelanalysis.com Freed FARC Hostage Thanks Efforts of Venezuelan President to Win His Liberation | venezuelanalysis.com Venezuela Sends Troops to Colombian Border to Prevent Incursion of FARC Guerrillas | venezuelanalysis.com Hugo Chavez tells Colombian rebels to stop kidnapping | Reuters What the FARC Files Really Reveal | venezuelanalysis.com

    And why would a President kick out all camps in Venezuela via the use of force, if he is supporting them? There are No More FARC Camps in Venezuela: Santos | venezuelanalysis.com

    "Look at what has happened and is happening in Latin America, reflect on this (FARC-EP), we are done with war... enough with all this death"-Chavez on FARC
    ""The guerrilla war is history...At this moment in Latin America, an armed guerrilla movement is out of place"-Chavez on FARC


    Yea... Chavez is really a "threat"...


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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Wait he invaded Colombia?
    We weren't talking about him invading. In fact, we were SPECIFICALLY NOT talking about that.

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Realistically, he is likely willing to serve as the launching pad for a third-party non nation state attack on the United States.
    That's exactly what he did to Colombia. He provided shelter and support for a terrorist group that launched kidnap and kill operations into Colombia. Spare me the "venezuelanalysis.com", I'm not clicking on goofy websites. I know enough history to understand what FARC is and what Chavez did with them.

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    We weren't talking about him invading. In fact, we were SPECIFICALLY NOT talking about that.
    So what about Colombia?


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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post

    That's exactly what he did to Colombia. He provided shelter and support for a terrorist group that launched kidnap and kill operations into Colombia. Spare me the "venezuelanalysis.com", I'm not clicking on goofy websites. I know enough history to understand what FARC is and what Chavez did with them.
    So you dont like factual information and analysis?


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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    US is a world power elephant but every little fly becomes a threat for it according to the politicians.i can understand why some people dislike voting..
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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    So you dont like factual information and analysis?
    No, I don't like BS media that feeds propaganda to commie-wannabes, and that's probably what your citation is, seeing as it has a stupid name and is focused entirely on Venezuela.


    Here's a headline from the dumbass website:

    Venezuela: A Threat to Washington?
    By Eva Golinger - Postcards from the Revolution , Jul 21st

    Venezuela is not a threat to US security. Venezuela is an example of how a rising people, facing the most difficult obstacles and the brutal force of empire, can build a model where social justice reigns, and human prosperity is cherished above economic wealth.
    venezuelanalysis.com | Venezuela News, Views, and Analysis


    You call that factual information and analysis? Whatever, dude. I'm not gonna argue about your favorite BS commie website.
    Last edited by ecofarm; 07-23-12 at 03:24 PM.

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Yes, he may not go directly to war with us, but he supports other regimes and governments that are hostile to our national security interests. He is an indirect threat.
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