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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Really? How very interesting - please link some of these people who were ordered to go to Vietnam, then refused, and then fragged officers in Vietnam who instead insisted they go to Vietnam?
    Reading difficulties? The subject from the outset has been mutiny by the troops. Fragging would be a pretty clear example of mutiny by the troops. And thinking such as that outlined in your earlier post is exactly the sort that got boneheads taken out back then by the dozens.

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr. Chuckles View Post
    that seemed more pr propaganda than anything else.
    You could say the same for very nearly every humanitarian relief program on earth. There are not many who do good works in the dark.

    Still one of our posters wasn't able to learn of this humanitarian relief effort even when deliberately looking for it. If all that Chavez had intended was to generate favorable propaganda, he apparently didn't do a very good job of it. Those hundreds of thousands of low-income Americans still had heating oil through the long cold winter, though...
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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    What about them thar mexican'ts? Why they're all illegal immigrants looking to subvert America I tellz you!
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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    Reading difficulties? The subject from the outset has been mutiny by the troops.
    Yes, specifically the subject was mutiny by troops after being ordered to go to war in a particular country. You then suggested that the attitude that those who commit mutiny get arrested or shot (we have a civilian rule over the military, and that's important) led to multiple cases of Fragging in Vietnam. Apparently you are aware of multiple fragging occurances that managed to take place both in Vietnam and Stateside at the same time.

    That, or, as I stated, you were talking out your ass.

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by RGacky3 View Post
    Absolutely, which means that if your in an unjust war, you SHOULD resist, and you SHOULD frag, and you SHOULD avoid punishment and resist.
    fantastic. currently many people in government allow the committance of murder of unborn children, and many others actually willfully engage in such acts! As someone duty bound to protect others, obviously I should kill these doctors and the evil politicians who enable them!

    Oh. Wait. Your logic is idiotic. My bad .

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by Cardinal Fang View Post
    More partisan and poorly thought through analysis. The Syrian government will have access to diesel under any circumstances. If there is a drop of it even near the country, they will have it. The EU/US boycotts have not stalled Assad. They have instead stalled ordinary Syrians by crippling transportation and agriculture, severely damaging the well-being of those we say we are trying to protect. Syrian farmers have had to resort to using horses and mules. Crops are scarce and very expensive. This is "help"? The growing humanitarian crisis in Syria is what Venezuela, Algeria, and a handful of other countries are responding to.
    oh man, this is why I don't like to talk foreign policy here

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by kaya'08 View Post
    Do you agree with Romney that Chavez poses a direct national security threat to the U.S.A, or do you think this is nothing more than fear mongering against socialism in Latin America that shouldn't be taken so seriously?
    Seeing how he's dying of terminal cancer...

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yes, specifically the subject was mutiny by troops after being ordered to go to war in a particular country. You then suggested that the attitude that those who commit mutiny get arrested or shot (we have a civilian rule over the military, and that's important) led to multiple cases of Fragging in Vietnam. Apparently you are aware of multiple fragging occurances that managed to take place both in Vietnam and Stateside at the same time. That, or, as I stated, you were talking out your ass.
    Pretzel logic, turned and twisted in a vain attempt to create a case where you have none. What I quite correctly stated is that attitudes like yours -- unthinking, hard-ass, robotic, order-following, full speed ahead, damn-the-torpedos foolishness -- got a good number of people fragged in Viet Nam. Did you want to dispute that fact or just continue to haplessly cough and sputter to no particular end at all?

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    oh man, this is why I don't like to talk foreign policy here
    Those who aren't capable of better than cowboys-and-indians level thinking about it should probably refrain from discussing foreign policy in any venue. It can't possibly go well.

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    Re: Is Venezuela's Chavez a threat to American National Security?

    I'd NOT agree with this gut-less, spine-less idiot on anything.
    Just my emotional feelings; intellectually - much the same...

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