View Poll Results: Would You Rather Have Obamacare or a System of UHC?

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    "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Would you rather have the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (AKA "Obamacare) or have a system of UHC in this country?


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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    I'd rather have "first class ticket to ..." than either of these.

    Maybe Texan Independence, yeah that's the ticket.
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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    I would much prefer UHC to the conservative alternative - the insurance mandate.
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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    I'd rather texas were independent too, so the rest of us can have UHC.

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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    I'm beginning to think that we should just have a "libertarian opt-out" for everything. Better yet why don't we set aside a parcel of land so that the libertarians can have their own paradise lol. That would be quite an experiment.
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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Neither. I also vote for Texas Independence, but really, all the bloody UHC and dumbasscare advocates leaving the country and letting the rest of us live free of this nonsense would be an even better choice.

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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I would much prefer UHC to the conservative alternative - the insurance mandate.
    So for the record, you are strongly against the insurance mandate?



    I chose universal, albeit arbitrarily. Obamacare guarantees rising prices of medical care and forces us to keep forking it over for it, at the cost of the taxpayer and at the direct and immediate benefit of private corporations. What kind of hell of a country literally forces its citizens by law to enrich private companies?

    Certain models of UHC might allow government to oppressively ration health care, which is quite desperately needed. Or if it doesn't it would accelerate our self-destruction and get it over with, which is also what Obamacare does, only less efficiently.
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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm beginning to think that we should just have a "libertarian opt-out" for everything. Better yet why don't we set aside a parcel of land so that the libertarians can have their own paradise lol. That would be quite an experiment.
    We had one. It was called the United States of America.
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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Cheesiest line of the year (so far) goes to...

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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm beginning to think that we should just have a "libertarian opt-out" for everything. Better yet why don't we set aside a parcel of land so that the libertarians can have their own paradise lol. That would be quite an experiment.
    Yeah, the world has that - they call it "Hong Kong".

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