View Poll Results: Would You Rather Have Obamacare or a System of UHC?

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    8 14.81%
  • Universal Health Care

    46 85.19%
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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    Come again?

    What is your point?

    That human's slaughter other animals? If that is it, it isn't something new, and it isn't just done by one side of the political spectrum.

    I think he was talking more about humans slaughtering other humans such as in Iraq that almost every single Republican supported.
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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    I think he was talking more about humans slaughtering other humans such as in Iraq that almost every single Republican supported.
    If so, then you should have understood the following that you even quoted.

    "and it isn't just done by one side of the political spectrum." Ya know?

    Uh... We have a President in charge of those doing so, with support form both sides of the isle.
    A President who violates other Countries sovereignty.
    Etc...
    What party does he belong to?

    Come-on, do you really want to go there?

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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Excon View Post
    If so, then you should have understood the following that you even quoted.

    "and it isn't just done by one side of the political spectrum." Ya know?

    Uh... We have a President in charge of those doing so, with support form both sides of the isle.
    A President who violates other Countries sovereignty.
    Etc...
    What party does he belong to?

    Come-on, do you really want to go there?
    You will have to be more specific. Our most costly war for no good reason, the Iraq war, was supported by nearly every single Republican vs a majority of Democrats that opposed it.

    The president withdrew our troops from Iraq and has proposed cuts to military spending vs Romney who said it was too soon to withdraw our troops from Iraq and has pledged to increase military spending.
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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    You will have to be more specific. Our most costly war for no good reason, the Iraq war, was supported by nearly every single Republican vs a majority of Democrats that opposed it.
    lol
    I do not know why you are going off on a tangent, but ok!


    Oh, you mean they were for the war before they were against the war Democrats? Those Democrats?
    And the War to remove a Despot, was for good reason.
    Especially for security of the region.

    The aftermath of the war which was over relatively quickly.... costs and funds could have been better managed, but the War was still for a good reason.


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The president withdrew our troops from Iraq
    How easily people forget. After much hemming and hawing.
    He didn't keep his word as spoken. He lied.


    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    The president withdrew our troops from Iraq and has proposed cuts to military spending vs Romney who said it was too soon to withdraw our troops from Iraq and has pledged to increase military spending.
    And of course you see these as a good thing instead of a horrible thing considering the growing hostility in the World.
    Figures!

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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Yes, this first baby step will basically assure that everyone has access to health care,
    Everyone has always had access to health care. What you mean is that you want it to be assured that everyone has access to ALL TYPES of healthcare. The uninsured had access only to hospitals previously. If you think hospital care is expensive, you should see what our outpatient clinic care costs relative to elsewhere. That's what you want people entitled to, in addition to hospital care? Hold on to your panties. Costs are about to go supernova.

    the next step will be a single payer plan that reduces actual health care costs.
    How would it do that?

    Note: I will even tell you what I'm doing, to warn you of the trap you're going to walk into. I'm asking you how a single payer plan will reduce health care costs because the only way for it to do so requires squeezing the providers or the patients. What's gonna get squeezed, and to what degree?
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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Would you rather have the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (AKA "Obamacare) or have a system of UHC in this country?
    Uh, they're the same thing, bro.

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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Uh, they're the same thing, bro.
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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by StillBallin75 View Post
    I'm beginning to think that we should just have a "libertarian opt-out" for everything. Better yet why don't we set aside a parcel of land so that the libertarians can have their own paradise lol. That would be quite an experiment.

    Give them texas...so they can all sit around a campfire telling each other how great they are..

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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Give them texas...so they can all sit around a campfire telling each other how great they are..
    Sounds like a plan...especially if we then give Texas back to Mexico.

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    Re: "Obamacare" or UHC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba, replying to another about my post View Post
    I think he was talking more about humans slaughtering other humans such as in Iraq that almost every single Republican supported.
    He understood that; he was playing the obtuse angle to avoid acknowledging the foolishness/shortsightedness of what he posted. The internet right is quite predictable when it comes to compounding their errors

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