Treat the earth well: it was not given to you by your parents, it was loaned to you by your children. We do not inherit the Earth from our Ancestors, we borrow it from our Children. ~ Ancient American Indian Proverb
But... no, it isn't better than what we had. No law that forces us to keep forking it over to a private corporation as a response to feeling ripped off by said corporation is... a retarded idea.
None of whom have any financial stake in the decision though, at that point, right? Couldn't a stubborn patient demand more and more life-saving hail marys at the expense of the collective? Or is that something that we shouldn't allow? It's really just one example of health care we probably should NOT be covering.Appropriate end-of-life planning and care are of course a part of that, and clearly there should be no issue over doctors being compensated under insurance plans for the time they spend counseling patients on such matters. Final care itself is something that can't be foreseen and certainly can't be legislated. Doctors, patients, and their families make those calls.
I was discovering that life just simply isn't fair and bask in the unsung glory of knowing that each obstacle overcome along the way only adds to the satisfaction in the end. Nothing great, after all, was ever accomplished by anyone sulking in his or her misery.
Wish there was a third option, but UHC is farther from having a choice than Obamacare. I could be wrong though. Obamacare is a tax, and UHC is a system. I will take the tax over another government run agency.
"We ain't a sharp species. We kill each other over arguments about what happens when you die, then fail to see the ******* irony in that." - Justin Halpern
And most of the third world to varying degrees.Yeah, the world has that - they call it "Hong Kong".
Also Hong Kong IS the libertarian paradise if ...
A: The government ownes ALL the land and rents it in a libertarian paradise, keeping the land artificially high so as to keep taxes low
B: You have a lot of social welfare including a public healthcare system
C: Runs almost entirely on foreign finance and investment
D: Relies hugely on foreign educated labor
E: Is 100% dependant on foreign corporations which use it as a tax haven while recieving support from other governments and demand from outside.
F: Oh and a nationalized stock exchange.
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Now, with health care consuming 17% of the GDP while other nations spend half that, give or take, and have better results, we're still committed to keeping what we have in the name of ideology and fear of "socialism".
Can't we just turn Congress off and then turn it back on again?
At least by the lay of the land as it is known today, there is no functional alternative to a single-payer UHC system of some sort. There are at least a dozen different varieties of that functioning in the world today, and we will ultimately develop a new one of our own. The tricky questions however have nothing to do with that, but rather with the means and path by which we try to get there from the god-awful here. Caveman and meta-axe technology will fail in this arena. Our long-term success depends on being both honest and clever. It seems though that there are rather limited numbers who can manage that. Perhaps we should try harder.