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Thread: Should Romney Ask Obama Why the Government Should Be Run Like a Business?

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    Re: Should Romney Ask Obama Why the Government Should Be Run Like a Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, you have to aggregate votes to a high enough level to affect the elections. Which is a bit more work than your "hold the line" method
    So what you are saying, is that by you voting 3rd party, nobody in the 'big two' has really noticed you, that your plot to overthrow them isn't even on their radar? Well that sounds like an astounding success.

    When you actually accomplish something with such foolishness, let us know, if any of us is still alive by then.

    Before any 'change' can happen, you need to get off a tiny little forum, and get out in the world and make people care.
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    Re: Should Romney Ask Obama Why the Government Should Be Run Like a Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    So what you are saying, is that by you voting 3rd party, nobody in the 'big two' has really noticed you, that your plot to overthrow them isn't even on their radar? Well that sounds like an astounding success.

    When you actually accomplish something with such foolishness, let us know, if any of us is still alive by then.

    Before any 'change' can happen, you need to get off a tiny little forum, and get out in the world and make people care.
    I know quite well. It's when you deal with those under delusion that support of the status quo will lead to something other than the status quo wherein you find a lot of difficulty.

    That being said, the system is well rigged against third party success for this exact reason. If there is true political competition, the main party could lose power either short term or indefinitely. To protect against that, the rules have been set against third party participation in our system.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should Romney Ask Obama Why the Government Should Be Run Like a Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    I know quite well. It's when you deal with those under delusion that support of the status quo will lead to something other than the status quo wherein you find a lot of difficulty.

    That being said, the system is well rigged against third party success for this exact reason. If there is true political competition, the main party could lose power either short term or indefinitely. To protect against that, the rules have been set against third party participation in our system.
    So now that the reality that you voting for 3rd party people has been shown to not really do anything in terms of bringing forth change, you shift to say that 'it's a conspiracy man!' ??

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    Re: Should Romney Ask Obama Why the Government Should Be Run Like a Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    So now that the reality that you voting for 3rd party people has been shown to not really do anything in terms of bringing forth change, you shift to say that 'it's a conspiracy man!' ??

    It's not a conspiracy, these are the rules under which participation in terms of campaign contributions through participation in televised debates are handled.

    What have you accomplished through support of the status quo? Has the status quo been changed?
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should Romney Ask Obama Why the Government Should Be Run Like a Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    Government should not be run like a business, that's stupid. Government should be run like a government.

    But the government is run like a for-profit-business for the profit of those in government and those in the private sector that pay to keep those in government in government.

    Obama has turned the government business of giving public funds to business for political personal profit into an art form. To have a successful corporation requires buying off the White House. In turn, the White House will give your company hundreds of millions of dollars and unfair exemptions from regulations your competitors have to pay for.

    As example, was Obama personally granting ObamaCare exemption to the Wal-Mart heirs - because they only had about $20,000,000,000.00 each and Obama decided they needed a government bailout exemption for ObamaCare.

    Obama is the best friend billionaires ever had.

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    Re: Should Romney Ask Obama Why the Government Should Be Run Like a Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    But the government is run like a for-profit-business for the profit of those in government and those in the private sector that pay to keep those in government in government.

    Obama has turned the government business of giving public funds to business for political personal profit into an art form. To have a successful corporation requires buying off the White House. In turn, the White House will give your company hundreds of millions of dollars and unfair exemptions from regulations your competitors have to pay for.

    As example, was Obama personally granting ObamaCare exemption to the Wal-Mart heirs - because they only had about $20,000,000,000.00 each and Obama decided they needed a government bailout exemption for ObamaCare.

    Obama is the best friend billionaires ever had.
    While the dynamics of what you say is true, this did not start with Obama. He is merely perpetuating it as all good status quo holders would do. Romney will do the same.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should Romney Ask Obama Why the Government Should Be Run Like a Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not a conspiracy, these are the rules under which participation in terms of campaign contributions through participation in televised debates are handled.

    What have you accomplished through support of the status quo? Has the status quo been changed?
    When you say 'the man' has rigged the system against you, you are talking CT. Pure and simple.

    As I have said, nothing will change until people are more interesting in their government that what the Jersey Housewives are doing.
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    Re: Should Romney Ask Obama Why the Government Should Be Run Like a Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    When you say 'the man' has rigged the system against you, you are talking CT. Pure and simple.

    As I have said, nothing will change until people are more interesting in their government that what the Jersey Housewives are doing.
    No, that's just logical fallacy right there. Also hyperbole as I never said "the man" has rigged anything. Merely that the laws and regulations governing our election cycle have become skewed in a way as to purposefully keep out the third party candidates. Which is true whether or not you wish to acknowledge reality.

    The last sentence is certainly true and one reason (if not THE reason) why the system has degraded as far as it has.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Should Romney Ask Obama Why the Government Should Be Run Like a Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    No, that's just logical fallacy right there. Also hyperbole as I never said "the man" has rigged anything. Merely that the laws and regulations governing our election cycle have become skewed in a way as to purposefully keep out the third party candidates. Which is true whether or not you wish to acknowledge reality.
    Who made those laws and regulations? Was it 'the man'? Or was it the citizens of this country?
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    Re: Should Romney Ask Obama Why the Government Should Be Run Like a Business?

    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    Who made those laws and regulations? Was it 'the man'? Or was it the citizens of this country?
    It was the government, unwatched and uncontrolled by the People. This is what government does when left to its own devices.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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