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  • The Libertarian Party

    51 61.45%
  • The Green Party

    13 15.66%
  • The Constitution Party

    3 3.61%
  • The Justice Party

    1 1.20%
  • Other (please specify)

    15 18.07%
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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    It is true that crack was a reaction to a rise in cocaine prices, partly due to law enforcement efforts to cut into the trade. Meth was a reaction to gov't making crack ingredients difficult to obtain. Yes, some people would do cocaine instead if it were legal and reasonably cheap. But not all.

    Legalizing weed and plain coke, I'm okay with. Heroin, LSD and peyote I'm not sure about. Crack and Meth are too toxic to be produced and sold legally, no legit company would touch the stuff in today's litigation climate.

    The problem here with no-compromise Libertarianism is that only about 2% of the population wants to live under that system. If you refuse to compromise what will you do with the 98% who disagree? There's your problem, and there's the reason the LP almost never wins an election, as much as the structurally-imbedded two-party preference.

    Libertarian Lite COULD win elections... start off with just legalizing weed, removing unConstitutional restrictions on the right to bear arms and self-defense, and trimming the Social Welfare state down to a more modest "safety net" that is focused on "giving a hand UP" instead of a "hand-out". Do this instead of trying to legalize EVERYTHING all at once, and instead of trying to end ALL social welfare INSTANTLY, and you might get some traction.

    Focus on minimizing our involvement in foreign wars rather than foreswearing all military action unless we're actually invaded, and people will see that as a more reasonable and desireable position.


    Spend more time focused on restoring the liberties people are most interested in, and minimizing the bureaucracy nobody likes, and more middle-of-the-road positions on most other things.... extreme positions and calls for instant and catastrophic change tend to scare people off.

    You may, over time, be able to get where you want to go (more or less) by incrementalism, but when Libertarians take an "ALL or nothing, NOW or never" attitude they turn off the majority of voters.

    There are only two ways to have everything YOUR way with ZERO compromise...
    1. Total dictatorship (a total contradiction to all Libertarianism stands for)

    Or

    2. Almost everyone agrees with LP on effectively everything (never happen... you can scarcely get 2/3rds to agree on ANYTHING, let alone 90%+ on EVERYTHING).



    Any democratically based system, by necessity, operates on compromise.
    Despite our victory in one of Texas' Congressional districts, NORML supporters are being picked-off one by one.

    Ron Paul, Barney Frank and Dennis Kucinich won't be returning to Congress. That's 3 guys we've just lost.

    We have a few Libertarian-Lite Senators already: Rand Paul, Mike Lee, etc
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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    The onl;y party that represents US Citizen interests

    America First Party

    GOP is for foreign corps
    DEms are for foreign criminals

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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by 274ina View Post
    The onl;y party that represents US Citizen interests

    America First Party

    GOP is for foreign corps
    DEms are for foreign criminals
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    So that means Atheists would not be allowed to join AFP?
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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smart View Post
    "Fighting for Faith..."

    So that means Atheists would not be allowed to join AFP?
    That is just for the religous in USA. To keep them happy.

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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smart View Post
    In your opinion, what minor party has the best chance of becoming a major party nationwide or in at least three states?

    I believe that honor belongs to the Libertarian Party, largely because the Justice and Green parties haven't been very successful in recruiting Democrats to their parties.
    The Libretarian Party. I think as our youth becomes more educated in politics, you will se a very young and strong libertarian party. Most people that I know that label themselves as Republican are better represented by the Libertarians. I don't think that they are gonna become one of the Major parties, but I think they will have an increasing impact over the next 20 years.
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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    The Libretarian Party. I think as our youth becomes more educated in politics, you will se a very young and strong libertarian party. Most people that I know that label themselves as Republican are better represented by the Libertarians. I don't think that they are gonna become one of the Major parties, but I think they will have an increasing impact over the next 20 years.
    I think expansion of online registration - especially with facebook will help get everyone signed up, so that at least they can vote if they want to. That should raise the overall minor party vote from 3% in Presidential races to 30% by default. There are enough Americans pissed off with both Repubs/Dems to vote against them every chance they get.
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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smart View Post
    In your opinion, what minor party has the best chance of becoming a major party nationwide or in at least three states?

    I believe that honor belongs to the Libertarian Party, largely because the Justice and Green parties haven't been very successful in recruiting Democrats to their parties.
    Other: The Republican party. Bah dum bum
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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by 99percenter View Post
    None. We will always have two parties in the US. Its our tradition. That's how our electoral system is set up to deter third parties.
    You need to brush up on history then. Political parties were rejected by the Founding Fathers, and didn't surface until the rift between Hamilton and Jefferson occurred. There was also the Era of Good Feelings in 1816-1824 where only one party existed.
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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Smart View Post
    I think expansion of online registration - especially with facebook will help get everyone signed up, so that at least they can vote if they want to. That should raise the overall minor party vote from 3% in Presidential races to 30% by default. There are enough Americans pissed off with both Repubs/Dems to vote against them every chance they get.
    I have seen in my highschool an increasing interest in politics. The major problem is the majority of them follow their parents views. If more were like me and wanted to immerse themselves in every viewpoint (whic is entirely possible as young people are very likely to be open minded), then I believe there will be a huge youth shift to Libertarians or at least Libertarian-like candidates such as Ron Paul. I know after I posted on facebook and twitter about Ron Paul a few times, more people at school started talking about him. Social media is powerful and it could easily be used to rebalance power because our 2 parties now have entirely too much power over the country
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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Other: The Republican party. Bah dum bum
    I hope not. The Republicans have made a mockery of Jefferson's party. Such a disgrace
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