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    51 61.45%
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    13 15.66%
  • The Constitution Party

    3 3.61%
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    1 1.20%
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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ikari View Post
    It's not to say that we'll never have a "third party". We can certainly have them and they can hold office to lesser extent too. If the system was open, you'd see a handful on the federal level and more at local levels. You won't have only 2 parties, you will have (with our current electoral system) 2 main parties at any given time.
    We've even had a few elected President! It's been awhile, but alternative parties to the Big Two have been successful.

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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    To me, the only real demographic up for grabs is the moderate, independent middle. The far ends are too ideological to be able to unite in a true third party. The larger group, the more open-minded group, the less-ideological group, is the one to eye for creating a viable third party.

    As I've already explained in other threads, I think the Whigs might be the best party so far to meet that requirement.
    The independent middle actually celebrates everything I listed before about libertarianism's problems. The establishment does what the middle wants. The middle is just too nervous to admit it.

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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    We've even had a few elected President! It's been awhile, but alternative parties to the Big Two have been successful.
    They have been, they could be again if we allow true political competition. But the Republocrats are opposed to open competition of most forms (they certainly are no fan of the free market)
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    As stated, none. Libertarianism has the best shot, but it's still needle-in-a-haystack.

    Job number one isn't to advance a third party - it's to abolish the two party winner-take-all system. Then we can revisit this and argue about who rises up to fight against the Bill Gates and Steven Jobs of politics.

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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Right now, Tweedledee and Tweedledum have government power sewed up. As long as it takes hundreds of millions to run for national office, it will continue to be so. As long as the lobbyists remain the real power in Washington, as long as Joe Public continues to base his votes on party loyalty and misleading political advertising, the third parties have little chance of getting any real power.

    But, just imagine the Libertarians actually getting some of their ideas made policy: No more subsidies, no more giving money away to foreign powers, no more military installations all over the world, no more war on drugs, the Bill of Rights restored, the philosophy that the purpose of government is to protect our god given rights the driving force, wouldn't that be worth a change in the way we do business in Washington?
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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Right now, Tweedledee and Tweedledum have government power sewed up. As long as it takes hundreds of millions to run for national office, it will continue to be so. As long as the lobbyists remain the real power in Washington, as long as Joe Public continues to base his votes on party loyalty and misleading political advertising, the third parties have little chance of getting any real power.

    But, just imagine the Libertarians actually getting some of their ideas made policy: No more subsidies, no more giving money away to foreign powers, no more military installations all over the world, no more war on drugs, the Bill of Rights restored, the philosophy that the purpose of government is to protect our god given rights the driving force, wouldn't that be worth a change in the way we do business in Washington?
    You just listed the two major problems with libertarian competition. 1) The system is set up against third party competition 2) The status quo is well entrenched and wants to remain the status quo and the libertarian platform is hostile to that. All the corporations and banks and such funneling money into government and lobbying would do whatever it takes to keep something like the LP out of aggregate public consciousness.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    No more subsidies
    Selfish racist.

    no more giving money away to foreign powers
    Selfish racist.

    no more military installations all over the world
    Selfish racist.

    no more war on drugs
    Selfish racist.

    the Bill of Rights restored
    Selfish racist.

    the philosophy that the purpose of government is to protect our god given rights the driving force
    Selfish racist.

    wouldn't that be worth a change in the way we do business in Washington?
    Washington doesn't like selfish racists.

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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    At this point none of the 3rd Parties can be one to replace one of the other two or get a third slot.

    While the Electoral College may implicitly cause the 2 party system to exist, the rules stacked against the 3rd Parties in the States explicitly guarantee that the two existing Parties stay in power and not have competition. If the laws that restrict 3rd Parties were stricken then there may be a realignment of one or both parties.
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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    The independent middle actually celebrates everything I listed before about libertarianism's problems. The establishment does what the middle wants. The middle is just too nervous to admit it.
    I'd rather have something done than the endless stretch of partisan do-nothingness.

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    Re: What minor party has the best chance to become a major party?

    Quote Originally Posted by RadicalModerate View Post
    I'd rather have something done than the endless stretch of partisan do-nothingness.
    Are you saying today's welfare, education, health care, and social work programs do nothing?

    (You can include the MIC as welfare in considering the poverty draft.)

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