View Poll Results: Do you support mandatory voting?

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  • Yes, those who do not vote should be fined

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  • Yes, those who do not vote should be jailed

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  • No, people should have a choice whether to vote or not

    25 67.57%
  • No, however the government should establish an Election Day Holiday to allow everyone to vote

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    Re: Mandatory voting

    Quote Originally Posted by Smart View Post
    How do you feel about mandatory voting?

    Personally, I oppose it. However it would help fix our elections, by getting the youth out to vote.
    I am in favor of another approach.

    Can Science Plant Brain Seeds That Make You Vote? : NPR

    potential voters were asked a series of carefully constructed questions:

    "What do you think you'll be doing before you head to the polls on Tuesday?" recipients of the call were asked. "Where do you think you'll be coming from that day?"

    These questions were designed by a Harvard professor named Todd Rogers. Rogers, among other things, is a behavioral psychologist, and he says he chose those questions for a very particular reason.

    "We borrowed that from cognitive psychology," he says, "There's a lot of research showing that thinking through the actual moment when you will do something makes it more likely that the behavior will pop into your mind at the appropriate time."

    Essentially, the questions plant a cognitive seed deep in your brain that sits there, mostly forgotten, until you arrive at the moment you talked about during the call. And then, says Rogers, "It pops into my head! 'Oh! I said I was going to vote now!' "
    No need in being authoritarian when you can simply ask the right questions and often get people to do what is right anyway.

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    As a secondary consideration. The problem with rulings like citizens united is that so much money is going to influence those who did not, for whatever reason, look into who is the best candidate themselves but let those commercials influence them. As a society, we need to find ways to reduce the effects of this ruling, not increase it.

    If anything, we need to find ways (like shown above) to convince people to do research and think, by leading them if we have to.

    Our society would be better off for it.
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    Re: Mandatory voting

    Quote Originally Posted by Smart View Post
    Allow me to explain.

    The youth are overwhelmingly pro-gay marriage, pro-term limits, pro-marijuana legalization, pro-prostitution legalization, etc.

    Their voices being heard on these issues will easily get them passed in most states.
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    Re: Mandatory voting

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    They also do "bath salts" and shoot bottle rockets out of their asses.
    Very very very very few have done either of those.
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    Re: Mandatory voting

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Lots of people seem to be stating definitively that compulsory voting would increase the number of "uniformed" people voting but is there any kind of evidence backing that up?
    Well it would definitely increase the number of uninformed people voting in absolute numbers. As for percentages, I'd say it stands to reason that the people who don't vote are generally less informed on political issues than those who do, although admittedly I don't have any hard data for this.

    Are all the politically informed people currently voting actually well informed or are they voting on the basis of bias and misinformation?
    Some of them probably are, but I'd say the answer to this isn't to increase the number of people voting that are uninformed or voting on bias and misinformation, which is what I strongly suspect would happen if voting were made mandatory.
    There should be Instant Runoff Voting

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    Re: Mandatory voting

    Quote Originally Posted by Smart View Post
    Very very very very few have done either of those.
    Just small examples. American youth aren't exactly know for demonstrating the best judgement. I don't see a problem with allowing the immature idiots within our youths ranks to mature. Forcing them to vote would be asking for trouble.
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    Re: Mandatory voting

    We need more holidays in this country!

    I would like one for my dog as well...all shall bow to the white one with a curly tail.
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    Re: Mandatory voting

    Quote Originally Posted by Anagram View Post
    Well it would definitely increase the number of uninformed people voting in absolute numbers. As for percentages, I'd say it stands to reason that the people who don't vote are generally less informed on political issues than those who do, although admittedly I don't have any hard data for this.
    Informed on political issues is not the same is informed in general. People not involved in the party political soap opera could well cut through to the actual policies (e.g. rather than focusing exclusively on where Obama was born or whether Romney outsourced jobs, they ask what those guys would actually do as President). It probably wouldn’t happen on it's own but it could as part of a wider policy on "better" elections.

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    Re: Mandatory voting

    Quote Originally Posted by Smart View Post
    Allow me to explain.

    The youth are overwhelmingly pro-gay marriage, pro-term limits, pro-marijuana legalization, pro-prostitution legalization, etc.

    Their voices being heard on these issues will easily get them passed in most states.
    Ah. Allow me to explain

    The youth are generally fools who think that life is like their college professors explained to them. They are the least informed age-bracket when it comes to political issues. They are the most likely to make major political decisions based upon ephemeral factors such as "I like him" rather than "I believe that Set Of Policies X, which this candidate supports, are more likely to achieve desired effects in society". The "Youth Vote" is more worried about voting in American Idol and watching reality TV than it is about voting for entitlement reform, tax code reform, or foreign policy.

    They are also massively in charge of government expenditures, social safety net programs that encourage dependency, the forgiveness of student loans, and generally using the government to "make life fair". Consider what you really want, oh ye libertarian, when you say you want to force them to the polls because you believe that doing so will produce electoral results of which you approve.

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    Re: Mandatory voting

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Just small examples. American youth aren't exactly know for demonstrating the best judgement. I don't see a problem with allowing the immature idiots within our youths ranks to mature. Forcing them to vote would be asking for trouble.
    Bingo. We should be running "voting is for boring old people" campaigns rather than "rock the vote" ones.

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    Re: Mandatory voting

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Bingo. We should be running "voting is for boring old people" campaigns rather than "rock the vote" ones.
    Thanks for reminding me about that travesty. I think I just developed another ulcer.
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