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    Too high taxes on ammo -- 2nd Amendment violation?

    The political climate isn't there for banning guns. Americans of most political persuasions support responsible gun ownership. However, it might be possible for a backdoor ban. If they taxed the crap out ammunition, making it extremely expensive, that would effectively make gun ownership a rich person's privilege. I personally think that would violate the 2nd Amendment. What do you think?

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    Re: Too high taxes on ammo -- 2nd Amendment violation?

    It was talked about years ago, we raised holy hell and they dropped the idea for the time being.


    Old news.

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    Re: Too high taxes on ammo -- 2nd Amendment violation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The political climate isn't there for banning guns. Americans of most political persuasions support responsible gun ownership. However, it might be possible for a backdoor ban. If they taxed the crap out ammunition, making it extremely expensive, that would effectively make gun ownership a rich person's privilege. I personally think that would violate the 2nd Amendment. What do you think?

    it would be good grounds to terminate the job of whomever implemented such a tax

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    Re: Too high taxes on ammo -- 2nd Amendment violation?

    I'm not a constitutional scholar, but I'd say "yes". Imposing exhorbitant special taxes on ammunition is clearly a backdoor attempt at gun control. "Have all the guns you want, but you can't afford to shoot them, bwahahahaha" kind of thing.

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    Re: Too high taxes on ammo -- 2nd Amendment violation?

    Taxing an item at extreme rates is functionally no different from banning it and should be treated as such.

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    Re: Too high taxes on ammo -- 2nd Amendment violation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The political climate isn't there for banning guns. Americans of most political persuasions support responsible gun ownership. However, it might be possible for a backdoor ban. If they taxed the crap out ammunition, making it extremely expensive, that would effectively make gun ownership a rich person's privilege. I personally think that would violate the 2nd Amendment. What do you think?
    See also the efforts to ban or restrict “junk guns” and “Saturday-night specials”. Same idea.
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    Re: Too high taxes on ammo -- 2nd Amendment violation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The political climate isn't there for banning guns. Americans of most political persuasions support responsible gun ownership. However, it might be possible for a backdoor ban. If they taxed the crap out ammunition, making it extremely expensive, that would effectively make gun ownership a rich person's privilege. I personally think that would violate the 2nd Amendment. What do you think?
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    Re: Too high taxes on ammo -- 2nd Amendment violation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kandahar View Post
    Yes, making it too arduous to exercise one's constitutional rights is essentially a restriction on those rights.
    which is why the FDR administration levied a 200 dollar tax on machine guns in 1934. goes what 200 dollars meant back then

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    Re: Too high taxes on ammo -- 2nd Amendment violation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Goshin View Post
    It was talked about years ago, we raised holy hell and they dropped the idea for the time being.


    Old news.
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    Re: Too high taxes on ammo -- 2nd Amendment violation?

    Quote Originally Posted by Luna Tick View Post
    The political climate isn't there for banning guns. Americans of most political persuasions support responsible gun ownership. However, it might be possible for a backdoor ban. If they taxed the crap out ammunition, making it extremely expensive, that would effectively make gun ownership a rich person's privilege. I personally think that would violate the 2nd Amendment. What do you think?
    Sort of like what they are doing with cigarettes.

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