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Thread: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Conservatives have this idea that all liberals are effeminate...I know I was one of them for decades...having said that this is childish its like the kid that takes other kids lunch money..until one day he smacks him and blows his fascade and makes a punk out of him...I guess he grows up to be a liberal then ? grin...
    I don't think politics has anything to do with being a bitch. Theodore Roosevelt had a lot of liberal qualities, and he wasn't anybodies bitch.
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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    I don't think politics has anything to do with being a bitch. Theodore Roosevelt had a lot of liberal qualities, and he wasn't anybodies bitch.
    Yes he was.

    Teddy Roosevelt was used by capital to breakup land. His trustbusting was exclusively against oil, railroads, and steel, not New England finance.

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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Yes he was.

    Teddy Roosevelt was used by capital to breakup land. His trustbusting was exclusively against oil, railroads, and steel, not New England finance.
    Where the **** do you get any of that from what I wrote? The topic is rugged individualism, quit being an attention whore.
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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    Where the **** do you get any of that from what I wrote? The topic is rugged individualism, quit being an attention whore.
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    Rugged individualism was built on the frontier, yet Teddy Roosevelt trustbusted the frontier.

    What's your point?

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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    ?

    Rugged individualism was built on the frontier, yet Teddy Roosevelt trustbusted the frontier.

    What's your point?
    it existed before the frontier....we would still be peasants in Europe otherwise.
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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    I've been thinking about this more and more, and the more I do, the more it seems to be a liberal rather than conservative idea.
    It originally was a liberal idea and tendency, but as the American style of liberalism has become dominant, and true liberalism has fallen by the wayside, conservatives are more likely to support the idea of rugged individualism these days.
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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
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    Rugged individualism was built on the frontier, yet Teddy Roosevelt trustbusted the frontier.

    What's your point?
    I clearly stated my point: It's not a political issue. Plus I was remarking on Theodore Roosevelt's character and persona. Quit over-analyzing every little thing. It's annoying as ****.
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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by lizzie View Post
    conservatives are more likely to support the idea of rugged individualism these days.
    Sure, until they need to appease their fairy tale gods and want to impose their moral beliefs on the individual.
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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    it existed before the frontier....we would still be peasants in Europe otherwise.
    Wall Street will have to be dealt with by someone else, and I hope it happens soon.
    To be clear, frontier is always the next place people are exploring.

    For example, Wall Street used to be New Amsterdam, and the pilgrims were at one time frontiersmen...

    ...pilgrims who were persecuted all the same by central authorities back home.

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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokiate View Post
    I clearly stated my point: It's not a political issue. Plus I was remarking on Theodore Roosevelt's character and persona. Quit over-analyzing every little thing. It's annoying as ****.
    Land versus capital isn't a political issue?

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