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Thread: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Conservatives have this idea that all liberals are effeminate...I know I was one of them for decades...having said that this is childish its like the kid that takes other kids lunch money..until one day he smacks him and blows his fascade and makes a punk out of him...I guess he grows up to be a liberal then ? grin...

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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Are you claiming "rugged" is primarily a physical attribute?

    If anything, it's a mental attribute since it involves how sensitive you are to being impressed or dealing with frustration.
    true, and over the years I have improved my "ruggedness" considerably. Frustration used to be a problem, in my youth, now it takes a lot to get me upset.
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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by lpast View Post
    Conservatives have this idea that all liberals are effeminate...I know I was one of them for decades...having said that this is childish its like the kid that takes other kids lunch money..until one day he smacks him and blows his fascade and makes a punk out of him...I guess he grows up to be a liberal then ? grin...
    when my son was about 12, he was being hassled by a couple of kids in sunday school, among other places. One of them was the instigator, a new kid in town, while the other had been my son's freind, but now he was a follower of the instigator.
    Instigator kid went too far and my son gave him 2 punches to the face, in Sunday School, in front of a classroom full of other kids of the same age.. Instigator never messed with him again, the other kid decided he would rather go back to being my son's friend.
    Heard it all from the sunday school teacher, not my son.....
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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by UtahBill View Post
    when my son was about 12, he was being hassled by a couple of kids in sunday school, among other places. One of them was the instigator, a new kid in town, while the other had been my son's freind, but now he was a follower of the instigator.
    Instigator kid went too far and my son gave him 2 punches to the face, in Sunday School, in front of a classroom full of other kids of the same age.. Instigator never messed with him again, the other kid decided he would rather go back to being my son's friend.
    Heard it all from the sunday school teacher, not my son.....
    Good for him hes going to grow up a liberal conservative slayer...lolol...

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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Liberals constantly stand up for the working class, and constantly advocate the redistribution of wealth away from the "greedy" towards the "needy". Those who are needy are those who work hard and get stuff done.
    Well, that's how the liberals portray it, anyway.

    The reality is rather different. It is the working class who primarily bear the burden of having their wealth “redistributed”, to the “needy” which include, in large part, an unproductive parasite class who produce no wealth, contribute nothing to society, and only live on wealth “redistributed” to them from those who did create that wealth.

    Those in the working class who think that liberalism is on their side are deceived.
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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Blaylock View Post
    Well, that's how the liberals portray it, anyway.

    The reality is rather different. It is the working class who primarily bear the burden of having their wealth “redistributed”, to the “needy” which include, in large part, an unproductive parasite class who produce no wealth, contribute nothing to society, and only live on wealth “redistributed” to them from those who did create that wealth.

    Those in the working class who think that liberalism is on their side are deceived.
    Those in the working class who think that either the libs or the cons care about them are deceiving themselves..
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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Frederick Jackson Turner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Here's some reading on the probable origins of this thinking.
    "He who does not think himself worth saving from poverty and ignorance by his own efforts, will hardly be thought worth the efforts of anybody else." -- Frederick Douglass, Self-Made Men (1872)
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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    On the actual topic of individualism, it is quite true that too much individualism is detrimental, even to the individual. Just like too much communialism is. The generalizations of liberal a conservative in this thread are of no consequences, but the idea of balance is crucial. We are too much in love with individualism in this country, to the point where we harm ourselves and our neighbors in a vain quest to be superior. We think that we can have everything. Of course we can't. There isn't everything to go around, and we all try to have it all, then we'll spend our lives just trying to take from each other. Instead, we need to be content to share, and to strive to improve ourselves. If we work together, we all prosper. But we need to each prosper in our individual ways, to cultivate our unique aspects and talents that make us stand out.
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    Re: Rugged Individualism: Liberal or Conservative

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Frederick Jackson Turner - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Here's some reading on the probable origins of this thinking.
    I was thinking of this guy:

    Frederick Russell Burnham - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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