View Poll Results: Should the statue stay up?

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    Re: Poll: Should the JoePa statue remain up?

    The NCAA is likely to impose the death penalty on Penn State, and rightfully so.

    There was a time when I thought Paterno was one of the greatest. Since the report was released I no longer feel the same about Paterno. If Paterno, and others, had stepped up other children would not have been raped by Sandusky. There seems no way around that fact.

    Penn State can do what it damn well pleases. I don't have any connection to the school. It isn't my fight. You do wonder, however, how the school and its supporters will feel after the NCAA imposes the death penalty for 3 or 4 years. Penn State will never be the same. It may well be that the university will one day want to put Paterno behind them and move forward. It is my opinion that his statue will be more of a bitter reminder than anything.

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    Re: Poll: Should the JoePa statue remain up?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    Children were abused under his watch and he knew about it. Had he not known, I'd say leave it up, but, with current circumstances, screw it, it's outta there.
    So you are gonna strip him of the last good thing that is left to his name? Forgiveness, my friend. His image is forever marred by what he has done. He is paying post-mortem prices now, both secular (and if you believe) spiritually. Let him be. Leave the statue, remember his legendary coaching career, but never forget what he did/
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    Re: Poll: Should the JoePa statue remain up?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    So you are gonna strip him of the last good thing that is left to his name? Forgiveness, my friend. His image is forever marred by what he has done. He is paying post-mortem prices now, both secular (and if you believe) spiritually. Let him be. Leave the statue, remember his legendary coaching career, but never forget what he did/
    No. When you abuse children, you don't get anything "good" to your name. He doesn't get to abuse children and "well THAT'S bad but he was a damn good coach!" If he wanted to remain a good coach, he could have turned in the administrators that were abusing the kids.
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    Re: Poll: Should the JoePa statue remain up?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    If their were I wouldn't mind if they left it up. His personal issues are just that, personal. Everybody makes bad choices. If children were a part of the statue, then it ought to be removed. But, they're not. It is a statue of him leading his football team, nothing more
    They aren't personal issues when they involve violating other people, which he did. He turned a blind eye to Sandusky and allowed others to be violated under his watch. Things cease to be personal decisions that shouldn't be judged when they impact others.
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    Re: Poll: Should the JoePa statue remain up?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    No. When you abuse children, you don't get anything "good" to your name. He doesn't get to abuse children and "well THAT'S bad but he was a damn good coach!" If he wanted to remain a good coach, he could have turned in the administrators that were abusing the kids.
    What he did was awful, shameful, and disgusting. I do not deny that one bit. He will be forever remembered as the coach that allowed that to happen. But he was also a hell of a coach. Leave the statue as rememberance of his coaching.

    Sidenote: If I type trophy, read statue.. I make trophies as a summer job so it's kinda on my mind a lot
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    Re: Poll: Should the JoePa statue remain up?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    It needs to be left up. His personal flaws have no holding on his legendary career.
    Actually his personal issues were magnified larger than life because of his career and the history of Penn State. Paterno was Penn State and Penn State was Paterno. If Paterno had wanted he had the power to prevent Sandusky from raping more children. Paterno choose to cover it up and to allow the sexual assaults by a monster to continue. Paterno, it seems, even supported plans to enable Sandusky to continue his twisted behavior.

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    Re: Poll: Should the JoePa statue remain up?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    What he did was awful, shameful, and disgusting. I do not deny that one bit. He will be forever remembered as the coach that allowed that to happen. But he was also a hell of a coach. Leave the statue as rememberance of his coaching.

    Sidenote: If I type trophy, read statue.. I make trophies as a summer job so it's kinda on my mind a lot
    His coaching is where the abuse happened. No.
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    Re: Poll: Should the JoePa statue remain up?

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    They aren't personal issues when they involve violating other people, which he did. He turned a blind eye to Sandusky and allowed others to be violated under his watch. Things cease to be personal decisions that shouldn't be judged when they impact others.
    They're personal in that it was a personal flaw. Your thing under "global moderator" says "Truth will set you free". He didn't give us the truth, but it is there; let him be free
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    Re: Poll: Should the JoePa statue remain up?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheLastIndependent View Post
    They're personal in that it was a personal flaw. Your thing under "global moderator" says "Truth will set you free". He didn't give us the truth, but it is there; let him be free
    The truth would've been going to the police and saying "hey, I think some of my administration is abusing children."
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    Re: Poll: Should the JoePa statue remain up?

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    His coaching is where the abuse happened. No.
    False. His coaching happened on the field. He was not the coach of those boys. He was the coach of the young men that brought him the stature that he once had as coach.
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