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    Re: Should Constitutional rights extend to non-citizens?

    Some should, yes.

    The right to life. The right to one's legally owned property.

    But some should not...such as the right to vote.
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    Re: Should Constitutional rights extend to non-citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    Our rights are inalienable. They do no originate from the Constitution.
    Give everyone US Constitutional rights, and there aint no Constitution.
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    Re: Should Constitutional rights extend to non-citizens?

    Simply Put, HELL NO.
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    Re: Should Constitutional rights extend to non-citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    So you think your buddy should be allowed to vote in our elections, donate to political campaigns, buy firearms, and so on?
    I like the idea of the ID card......if properly and fairly implimented...
    If our "buddy" donates , so what, he is the fool !
    If he buys a fire-arm - so what , let him - his loss , our gain..again he is the fool.
    And so on.
    We need a better people and a new Congress.

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    Re: Should Constitutional rights extend to non-citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt Foley View Post
    Give everyone US Constitutional rights, and there aint no Constitution.
    To not respect the rights of everyone, protected by the Constitution, is to deny the very foundation the Constitution was founded upon.
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    Re: Should Constitutional rights extend to non-citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Some should, yes.

    The right to life. The right to one's legally owned property.

    But some should not...such as the right to vote.
    We do recognize that everyone has the right to vote. Just not in the US elections.
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    Re: Should Constitutional rights extend to non-citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Some should, yes.

    The right to life. The right to one's legally owned property.

    But some should not...such as the right to vote.
    The right to life is inherent without the Constitution.
    Standards for property ownership by non US citizens should be handled by treaty with the person's country not our Constitution.
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    Re: Should Constitutional rights extend to non-citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    This link is also posted in the immigration forum, but that thread is intended for the immigration aspects. This thread and poll is intended for a different sub-topic that is contained within the story. I have also seen this sub-topic mentioned in other news stories as well, so it's not exactly a rare issue.

    Should Constitutional rights extend to non-citizens?


    The question isn't how things are done now. We may be doing them correct, or we may be doing them incorrect. The question is: What do YOU think should apply to non-citizens regarding specifically Constitutional rights and protections?

    Should something like the 1st Amendment right to free speech and expression apply to non-citizens (who are in this country)?
    The First Amend says
    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
    Since the 1st Amend does NOT say that congress can make laws establishing a religion for non-citizens, or prohibit the free speech of non-citizens, or abridge the freedom of speech of non-citizens, or the press of non-citizens, or the right of non-citizens to peaceable assemble, or the right of non-citizens to petition the govt, then the only way one could think that constitutional rights should not apply to non-citizens would be if one thinks the actual text of the constitution should be ignored, and replaced with whatever nonsense that person would like it to say
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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    Re: Should Constitutional rights extend to non-citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aberration View Post
    We do recognize that everyone has the right to vote. Just not in the US elections.
    No we don't. There are countries that don't hold elections with whom we don't interfere.. We support a democratic republican model, but we do not recognize it as a universal human right.
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    Re: Should Constitutional rights extend to non-citizens?

    Quote Originally Posted by tessaesque View Post
    Some should, yes.

    The right to life. The right to one's legally owned property.

    But some should not...such as the right to vote.
    Right, or even more accurately, some *do* and some do *not*

    The Framers of our constitution deliberately and intentionally granted our govt the power to protect rights - in some instances only the power to protect those rights for citizens (ex voting) and in others, for every person regardless of citizenship
    Quote Originally Posted by matchlight View Post
    Justice Thomas' opinions consistently contain precise, detailed constitutional analyses.
    Quote Originally Posted by jaeger19 View Post
    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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