View Poll Results: What is (are) the best way(s) to eliminate the deficit?

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  • A balanced budget amendment

    24 24.74%
  • A line item veto amenndment

    17 17.53%
  • replace income tx with a national retail sales tax

    10 10.31%
  • Raise taxes on the rich

    40 41.24%
  • Raise taxes on the middle-class

    7 7.22%
  • Raise taxes stealthily in the form of fees, a federal lottery, etc.

    4 4.12%
  • Nationalize oil and natural gas on federal land and get into the enegry business like Saudi Arabia

    11 11.34%
  • Cut federal spending

    66 68.04%
  • Sell services to prizate industry at a profit, privatize then tax them

    4 4.12%
  • other

    26 26.80%
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Thread: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    A year ago, I'd fully agree..... now I have doubts....
    Our nation needs honesty, the truth...I do not know if nuclear is in fact the best way to go...all kinds of conflicts....does anyone "tell the truth" ?
    Did they ever ???
    And I do NOT see what "liberal" or "conservative" policys have to do with a choice of power generation ....
    I favor coal, but can the pollution be controlled ?
    I'd like to think that it can..
    I understand the gravity of the Japan situation, but lets be practical. They got hit by a record setting earthquake followed by a record setting tsunami, and still no one has died from the nuclear disaster. To me, that is quite an accomplishment.
    The U.S. has seen a clean nuclear record since Three Mile Island, and many heavily nuclear countries such as France and Germany also have clean nuclear records.
    Perhaps Japan simply isn't the best place to put a nuclear reactor due to geography, but we do not have that sort of problem here in the United States.

    And you are right about truth and honesty. The "anti-nuclear" propaganda in this country has been so overwhelming that it is incredibly difficult to get any sort of nuclear legislation done. The term "nuclear power" for many decades was, well, quite nuclear. But I think with a rational cost benefit analysis, one will determine that nuclear has unlimited potential to met our energy and ecological needs.

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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by earthworm View Post
    A year ago, I'd fully agree..... now I have doubts....
    Our nation needs honesty, the truth...I do not know if nuclear is in fact the best way to go...all kinds of conflicts....does anyone "tell the truth" ?
    Did they ever ???
    And I do NOT see what "liberal" or "conservative" policys have to do with a choice of power generation ....
    I favor coal, but can the pollution be controlled ?
    I'd like to think that it can..
    I'm not exactly sure what all this eviroidiot talk has to do with reducing the deficit, especially when enviromentalism is a major cause of shipping jobs out of America. Seems enviromentalism is a means of increasing the deficit, raising unemployment and destroying the economy. Even some producers of "green" products and technology outsource because they are either not profitable or suffer major loss of profits by working under the EPA here in America.

    Nuclear is currently the most enviromentally friendly way of mass power generation. Around 1969, someone did design a coal plant that was actually more efficient than nuke and was able to remove particals from emissions. But, alas, building these plants was too expensive, so other than a test plant, none were built. Also, while it was clean for many particles that fall out of coal emmissions, it was not "clean" for others, such as CO2, the big boogyman of current enviromentalist. Nuke plants are also very expensive and have to built to very exacting standards, not to mention they don't go well in Geologically unstable areas.

    Geo-thermal is nice also, but you have to have volcanic like ativity in the area to tap it. Would be really nice if we had more of these areas, but alas, we don't have enough. I am all for building what we can though. One possibly bad thing is that if the area actually becomes volcanically active, a volcano might wipe out your plant. But, like the yellowstone area, if it has a full scale eruption, it will wipe out most life on earth, so we won't need those power plants afterwards anyways. Oh, almost forgot, geological venting usually comes with a fair amount of that nasty CO2 also. This is the best option for places like Iceland, Hawaii, etc. Why someone near to a place like Hot Springs Arkansas is building a coal plant instead of a Geo-Thermal plant is a mystery to me, unless they just don't have enough venting to run a plant.

    What does "conservative"/"liberal" have to do with it? Well, most of the enviromentalist and anti-nuke people are also liberals. They don't want nuke, they don't want coal. They want wind, which is unreliable at best, cannot and will not ever be able to meet our needs or solar, which sometime down the road in the future will supposedly meet our needs, at least during the day. Never mind the leftovers of chemical processess to build solar panels and batteries to store it for nighttime use.

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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No, I am not a fan of Ron Paul. His foreign policy, like yours, is naive beyond all measuring. It's Kellog-Briand level naive.

    But no, we did not invade Saudi Arabia. The Kingdom asked us to come defend them after Iraq invaded Kuwait, and they have sought our assistance ever since as a bulwark against Iran.
    Only suckers would defend a country that charges us 20 times what the oil costs them. Let's take the oil back first; we built those oilwells. Then dare Iran to try to take it. A real man only defends his own property.
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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by ReformCollege View Post
    I realize you are just one person but do you think you could convince the rest of your liberal friends that nuclear power is the best way to meet our energy and ecological needs at the same time? We have only had 3 nuclear disasters in 40 years of the industry, and two of them lead to no loss of life. Chernobyl on the other hand, was handled by idiots who did not put a containment structure around the reactor. All reactors now have containment structures. Sure waste is a problem when it comes to nuclear power, but building containment facilities is still an enormous improvement over green house gas emissions. Not to mention the unlimited amount of cheap electricity we could generate from a large expansion of nuclear power could be an enormous catalyst for a booming electrical car industry, further reducing oil consumption.
    Do you mean like the liberal president and congress who provided more funding for nuclear construction than any administration in history?
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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Real science is the research over the last 30 years that have the majority of climate experts from all over the world endorsing AGW. At this point in time it is predominately white conservative males that deny AGW.
    Politically motivated scientists. Such escapist freaks also believe in something as silly as the Butterfly Effect. That is like saying that if I kick some dirt, it may be taken by the wind to the local baseball park and add enough there to cause a game-winning bad-hop single, so it's all my fault if the home team loses.
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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by PrometheusBound View Post
    Politically motivated scientists. Such escapist freaks also believe in something as silly as the Butterfly Effect. That is like saying that if I kick some dirt, it may be taken by the wind to the local baseball park and add enough there to cause a game-winning bad-hop single, so it's all my fault if the home team loses.
    I don't subscribe to the conspiracy theory that the majority of scientists in the world are politically motivated. You might try the conspiracy forum. Its down the hall and to the right.
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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Catawba View Post
    Do you mean like the liberal president and congress who provided more funding for nuclear construction than any administration in history?
    Well, Obama isn't really liberal, he's center left. But he shut down Yucca Mountain, which puts the future of nuclear energy very much in doubt. Not to mention, environmentalists hate nuclear because they see it as taking away resources from solar and wind power.

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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Daktoria View Post
    Stop graduating adult children and actually demand that people behave maturely once adults.

    That way, demand for social services goes down since people don't need them anymore.
    IF there are enough jobs.....IF...
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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    Economically, the best energy is the least expensive energy. Are you suggesting discarding the cheapest energy production and most prevalent availability of cheap energy in the history of civilization in favor of a system that is untested, untried and undeveloped for the purpose of being stylish?
    Cheap energy that severely pollutes isn't cheap, you have to take into account the entire process, from mining and refining to burning and hauling away the waste products, and the pollution, of course. Coal is not cheap...
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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by Karl View Post
    That would only work in the long term. For an immediate solution, substitute rich people for old people in your formula
    with a 99% estate tax rate for all over 1 million dollars...
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