View Poll Results: What is (are) the best way(s) to eliminate the deficit?

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  • A balanced budget amendment

    24 24.74%
  • A line item veto amenndment

    17 17.53%
  • replace income tx with a national retail sales tax

    10 10.31%
  • Raise taxes on the rich

    40 41.24%
  • Raise taxes on the middle-class

    7 7.22%
  • Raise taxes stealthily in the form of fees, a federal lottery, etc.

    4 4.12%
  • Nationalize oil and natural gas on federal land and get into the enegry business like Saudi Arabia

    11 11.34%
  • Cut federal spending

    66 68.04%
  • Sell services to prizate industry at a profit, privatize then tax them

    4 4.12%
  • other

    26 26.80%
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Thread: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    ...you realize that's pretty much the Ryan Plan's approach to taxation?

    You mean the paul ryan whose plan has been totally rejected twice by the american people and congress.

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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    do you think Bill Clinton is a right-wing fanatic?

    Nope but hes whatever is best for bill and will change accordingly

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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No, it just reduces it, thus reducing growth.
    "Reducing growth"? Where is the growth now? Where has been the US job growth for the bast 20 years here?


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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "Reducing growth"? Where is the growth now? Where has been the US job growth for the bast 20 years here?
    Mostly in China where they are slowly throwing off their socialist ways instead of in America where socialistic ideas and government control have been on a steady rise. They are more and more embracing capatilist methods, improving their educations systems and should throw off the last vestiges of communism/socialism in the mid term future, where as America has embraced greater and greater socialis, electing it's first Socialist president in 2008, placing to many restrictions on business and expansion of new markets and ideas , has abandoned advancement to try to maintain a status quo and will probably become a 3rd world ****hole about the sametime as China dumbs the last communist/socialist out of their government. That is unless we also start dumbing socialism and socialist idiocy or have a second Civil war and eradicate the socialist/communist/liberal bastards and bitches before then.

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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    We should raise taxes on all Americans who earn dollar one:

    1- a five point income tax increase across the board or all
    2- abolish the estate and inheritance tax as it exists and simply tax the money as income according to the normal income wage schedule
    3- abolish the capital gains tax and simply tax the money as income according to the normal schedule
    4- cut $300 billion from the budget today

    We owe it to our kids and our grandkids. The selfishness has to stop. The ideology has to stop. The fanaticism has to stop.

    We need to start being adults.
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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Mostly in China where they are slowly throwing off their socialist ways instead of in America where socialistic ideas and government control have been on a steady rise.

    Your kidding me right?
    So you wanna become more like China? Sweat Shops? Little to no labor laws?

    They are more and more embracing capatilist methods, improving their educations systems and should throw off the last vestiges of communism/socialism in the mid term future,
    They are a state capitalist society.
    "In this system, governments use various kinds of state-owned companies to manage the exploitation of resources that they consider the state's crown jewels and to create and maintain large numbers of jobs. They use select privately owned companies to dominate certain economic sectors. They use so-called sovereign wealth funds to invest their extra cash in ways that maximize the state's profits. In all three cases, the state is using markets to create wealth that can be directed as political officials see fit. And in all three cases, the ultimate motive is not economic (maximizing growth) but political (maximizing the state's power and the leadership's chances of survival). This is a form of capitalism but one in which the state acts as the dominant economic player and uses markets primarily for political gain"
    We're All State Capitalists Now - By Niall Ferguson | Foreign Policy

    You were talking about education systems? Are you kidding me? China's education is terrible. They are ranked 97th on the educational index rankings whereas the US is ranked 21st.

    where as America has embraced greater and greater socialis, electing it's first Socialist president in 2008,
    Yea and what socailist things are those? Oh yea Obamacare. To bad its private ran healthcare. A corporatist policy.

    placing to many restrictions on business and expansion of new markets and ideas , has abandoned advancement to try to maintain a status quo and will probably become a 3rd world ****hole about the sametime as China dumbs the last communist/socialist out of their government. That is unless we also start dumbing socialism and socialist idiocy or have a second Civil war and eradicate the socialist/communist/liberal bastards and bitches before then.
    socialist/communist/liberal bastards tahts quite the combination of ideologies.


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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post

    Your kidding me right?
    So you wanna become more like China? Sweat Shops? Little to no labor laws?


    They are a state capitalist society.
    "In this system, governments use various kinds of state-owned companies to manage the exploitation of resources that they consider the state's crown jewels and to create and maintain large numbers of jobs. They use select privately owned companies to dominate certain economic sectors. They use so-called sovereign wealth funds to invest their extra cash in ways that maximize the state's profits. In all three cases, the state is using markets to create wealth that can be directed as political officials see fit. And in all three cases, the ultimate motive is not economic (maximizing growth) but political (maximizing the state's power and the leadership's chances of survival). This is a form of capitalism but one in which the state acts as the dominant economic player and uses markets primarily for political gain"
    We're All State Capitalists Now - By Niall Ferguson | Foreign Policy

    You were talking about education systems? Are you kidding me? China's education is terrible. They are ranked 97th on the educational index rankings whereas the US is ranked 21st.


    Yea and what socailist things are those? Oh yea Obamacare. To bad its private ran healthcare. A corporatist policy.


    socialist/communist/liberal bastards tahts quite the combination of ideologies.
    Blah, blah, blah. Typical left wing bs.

    No, we do not have to reduce to sweat shop levels in most cases, that level should be reserved for idiots that choose not to discipline and educate themselves to the level of skilled labor. While China is currently at the sweatshop level, it will not remain so, just like labor did in America, it will slowly rise upwards.

    You are also full of **** if you think China, outside of the Capitalist zones is a anything other than a socialist state. Oh, wait, thats right, your the "socialist" that apparently has never actually read or understood Marx. Forget the rest of your diatribe, it is apparently of a waste of time to keep trying to get you to actually know and understand true socialism and Marx.

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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    cut spending on the poor & middle class while raising taxes on the rich.

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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    "Reducing growth"?
    yup

    Where is the growth now?
    Well, in the US, in Fracking. But you can have negative growth, which is looking more and more like a possibility in the near future.

    Where has been the US job growth for the bast 20 years here?
    Well, up until our massive keynesian experiment in increasing the productivity of resources by allocating them according to political incentives rather than economic ones, and encouraging employment by punishing employers, doing pretty well.

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    Re: What's the best way to reduce the deficit?

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Blah, blah, blah. Typical left wing bs.
    So your telling me that China is a pure capitalistic nation (we have never even been a pure capitalistic nation)? Your telling me that China has no sweat shops? China environment is awesome!?
    Its not "left wing BS" when its true..


    No, we do not have to reduce to sweat shop levels in most cases, that level should be reserved for idiots that choose not to discipline and educate themselves to the level of skilled labor. While China is currently at the sweatshop level, it will not remain so, just like labor did in America, it will slowly rise upwards.
    Sure it will... Been there for a very long time. A **** ton of 3rd world countries have been that way for a while. **** we still have some sweat shops in this country.

    You are also full of **** if you think China, outside of the Capitalist zones is a anything other than a socialist state. Oh, wait, thats right, your the "socialist" that apparently has never actually read or understood Marx. Forget the rest of your diatribe, it is apparently of a waste of time to keep trying to get you to actually know and understand true socialism and Marx.

    Claiming that China is socialist is hysterical.


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