View Poll Results: Are Social Security and Medicare Constitutional?

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  • Medicare ONLY Is Constitutional

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  • Social Security ONLY is Constitutional

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  • BOTH Medicare and Social Security are Constitutional

    13 52.00%
  • NEITHER are Constitutional

    12 48.00%
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Thread: Are Medicare and Social Security Constitutional?

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    Re: Are Medicare and Social Security Constitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    First, thank you for explaining at least parts of medicare and the thoughtful reply. IMHO, SS/Medicare are far more direct and single purpose than 85% of the 80K+ pages of the IRS code. The 16th amendment allowed the federal gov't to tax the INCOME of the citizens, from all sources yet, says NOTHING about basing that taxation upon how that private income was LATER spent or how many citizens that it may (or may not) support. SS/Medicare are simple, flat and direct taxation systems, from the first dollar of wage income to the current cap (that should be removed). The mass of credits, deductions, exceptions and exclusions are mind boggling, to say the least, for the balance of the FIT mess. I am sure that, by now, we have spent FAR more time money and effort, as a nation, keeping records and filling out federal income tax forms, than we expended to get a man on the moon and to build the entire interstate highway system. ;-)
    No problem on the explanation, forgot one thing, to qualify for the supplementals under law a person must have part B enrollment, not a big omission but important to know. Overall I'd say SSI and Medicare are less complicated than a lot of federal programs due simply to the backdoors created and the bureacracies created by such.
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    Re: Are Medicare and Social Security Constitutional?

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    I am no scholar but, perhaps, a treaty was involved, and its terms and conditions allowed the purchase of land as part of it.
    Well, the Louisiana Purchase is not the most grievous offense against the Constitution, because that is a valid point. But I tend to go with the other side in believing that something as important as expanding the country by purchase should be written in the Constitution.
    "I have never understood why it is "greed" to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." -Thomas Sowell

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