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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Then you think the government coming up with what you can vote on actually has anything to do with what I posted? That doesn't exactly speak highly of your intelligence.

    No, it only happens when around you stupid posts that fail on some unexplainable level,
    Communication is a two-way street. I've done my part, I responded to what I thought were your points. It is now your turn - and just saying "you didn't address my points" doesn't move the conversation any further down the road. If you feel I haven't addressed them then you should post them again with additional comments for clarity.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    This coming from the guy that used it as a key gear in his arguments for months until one day he wake up and just decided to drop it like a stone for no apparent reason.
    It was arguing with folks on your side that caused the light bulb of enlightenment to go off. For months - probably years - all sides of the taxation debate talk about FAIR. But there is no agreement of any kind as what FAIR is.

    In debate, you have to have common understanding of the definition of terms or else everyone is simply talking past each other.


    But when folks on the other side of the debate like Cpwill even come to the same conclusion, it should tell you something is developing that you should take notice of.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    [QUOTE=haymarket;1060753855]Even cpwill admits that the term FAIR or FAIRNESS needs to be crushed and flushed in a discussion on taxes. It is a term which nobody agrees upon from either side. As such it is meaningless and is an obstacle in debate.[/QUOTE

    you are making the rest of us conservatives look bad by dodging debate and eroding free speach.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    Even cpwill admits that the term FAIR or FAIRNESS needs to be crushed and flushed in a discussion on taxes. It is a term which nobody agrees upon from either side. As such it is meaningless and is an obstacle in debate.[/QUOTE

    you are making the rest of us conservatives look bad by dodging debate and eroding free speach.

    ....huh?????
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Then you think the government coming up with what you can vote on actually has anything to do with what I posted?
    I'm sorry, did you miss the part below that I have now bolded for emphasis?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Most taxes, sales and property taxes where I live for example, are such that The People vote on them directly. My state/county/city representatives can recommend a change in taxes but The People vote on those changes directly, which could include getting rid of them completely (if we all went collectively insane). There are also ways citizens can put changes on the ballot, including changes in taxes. So, no, I'm not avoiding anything. If anything you are avoiding your personal responsibility to government - in fact, you seem completely blind to it. You cannot separate voting and the laws that result from the outcome of that vote, including tax laws.
    If so,
    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    That doesn't exactly speak highly of your intelligence.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    Communication is a two-way street. I've done my part, I responded to what I thought were your points. It is now your turn - and just saying "you didn't address my points" doesn't move the conversation any further down the road. If you feel I haven't addressed them then you should post them again with additional comments for clarity.
    Oh ****ing please! I have no obligation to do anything here. You purposely avoided the points I brought up so you can continue to go on about voting. Don't pretend that its somehow my failure to commute here when it's clearly you own.

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    I'm sorry, did you miss the part below that I have now bolded for emphasis?

    If so,
    As if I somehow suggested that is all you said?

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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Oh ****ing please! I have no obligation to do anything here. You purposely avoided the points I brought up so you can continue to go on about voting. Don't pretend that its somehow my failure to commute here when it's clearly you own.
    And where does that accusation leave us? Impasse because you can't reword your original point(s?) to make more sense?
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    As if I somehow suggested that is all you said?
    I don't know what the hell you "suggested". If you're expecting everyone to read between your hair-thin lines then I must tell you, I misplaced my magnifying glass - you'll have to be more obvious.

    I know it's common for lawyers to use small print for those things they want to hide but that attitude doesn't really work for honest discussion.
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    Re: Is paying your taxes Patriotic?

    Quote Originally Posted by MoSurveyor View Post
    And where does that accusation leave us? Impasse because you can't reword your original points to make more sense?
    Looky there folks, its still my fault somehow. This time its all of a sudden that I didn't make sense when that clearly wasn't the problem a moment ago. Good times..

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